Stanley Fish wrote a great column this week about Obama's claim that the next Supreme Court justice should be someone who interprets the law with a dose of "empathy." 

 

Obama named his nominee, Sonia Sotomayor, on Tuesday.  The "empathy" comment had come in a May 1 press conference, in which Obama said he wanted to nominate a judge "who understands that justice isn't about some abstract legal theory....  I view [the] quality of empathy, of understanding and identifying with people's hopes and struggles, as an essential ingredient for arriving at just decisions and outcomes." Obama wanted a nominee who thoroughly knew the law but also knew that laws should change to adapt to social conditions.  He wanted someone, he said, who had "respect for [the] constitutional values on which this nation was founded" and could think flexibly about "apply[ing] them in our time." (For his past descriptions of the need for empathy in a nominee, click here.)

 

Stanley Fish's column details the hot political debate that took off after Obama asked for a judge with "empathy."  (For more on the crossfire, see Dahlia Lithwick's Slate article here and Charlie Savage's The New York Times piece here).  In a nutshell, many conservatives are arguing that a discussion of empathy has no role in the discussion of legal acumen.  Being "empathetic," claimed Utah's Senator Orrin Hatch on This Week is like using "personal preferences and feelings [in] place of being impartial and deciding cases based upon the law."  Hatch's assumption is that we can--and that we traditionally have--interpreted the Constitution in an objective way, or without cultural bias.  To conservatives who agree with Hatch, a call for "empathy" is just a strategic liberal move: the championing of certain races, sexual orientations, social classes, and genders. 

 

On the other hand of this debate, the liberal perspective is more likely to argue that law is always interpreted from some bias.  Furthermore, a liberal tends to say, power has historically consolidated in such a way that even while it promises equal opportunity to us all, certain groups have a minimal voice in today's system.  In this sense, a call for "empathy" might indeed imply a need for change--for reconnecting our flaccid legal descriptions of "justice" and "democracy" to the world we're currently living in.

 

Fish made some interesting points in his column.  One is that any self-referential system--like the highly technical lingo of medicine, or Pig Latin, or the language of law--runs the risk of becoming an autonomous or closed system.  A closed system only looks inside of itself--at its own past and its own terms--to determine its so-called truths.  The danger of a closed system is that it can lose touch with the very outside world that it's purporting to represent or to help.  For instance, we can develop a written, legal definition of "equality" which does not functionally promote social equality in America in 2009.  Consider one ruling from the Supreme Court which was actually made on the same day in which Obama named Sotomayor his nominee.  The ruling, called Montejo v. Louisiana, overturns a 23-year-old precedent which limits police from interrogating a suspect when the suspect's lawyer is absent.  Under the new ruling, the police can conduct interrogation in the lawyer's absence.  Judge Scalia sees this as allowing for quicker "justice," but it also radically decreases a frightened suspect's self-protection in the back of a police car.

 

At its extreme, a closed system has the confusing quality which frustrated little Alice in the grand world of Wonderland, in which any truth was a "truth" because of mere tautology.  In one scene in Alice in Wonderland, the White Rabbit wants to know how to tell a story, and the King of Hearts (who is a King of empathy in his name but not in his being) tells him bluntly, "Begin at the beginning and go on till you reach the end.  Then stop."  That is: The "beginning" is the "beginning" because that's its name; and if that's not self-evident to you, there's no further recourse. 

 

Autonomous or closed systems also tend to stake their claims on objectivity, because a claim to absolute truth allows the authors of any system to keep it together even as the world around it changes.  As Fish points out, the Nazis maintained a claim on justice by defining right and wrong on their own terms.  To correct that definition of "right," an outside hunch--a natural if not constructed sense of justice--was needed.  Before Brown vs. Board of Education, American law also named racial segregation an "equality" with the then-trusted term "Separate but Equal."  Someone needed to empathize with the people living on the other side of that term to refine the system.

 

Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor claims that her sense of empathy comes from the fact that our diverse cultural histories, including "experiences as women and people of color," will always "affect our decisions."  In a 2001 speech at Berkeley, she said that "cultural differences [including] gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging."  Some critics have quoted her from that speech, blaming her for overt bias.  She openly agrees that she has a bias of sorts.  But she adds that everyone does, and that her particular bias is a relevant perspective for reconsidering our 20th Century American use of the word "justice."

 

What do you think: What role does empathy or even cultural perspective have in shaping contemporary justice?

 

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by on 05-29-2009 10:54 AM
I'm one of those liberals who have no problem with a judge using his or her life experience to help make decesion within the bounds of the law.  I would like to point out that Judge Alito said the same thing in his confirmation hearings and that no one on the right seemed to have a issue with it at the time.
by on 05-29-2009 07:54 PM

I have to agree with her. Your own cultural perspective does slant your objectivity. But I think that's always been true for the justices.

 

So is the problem that she's honest about it?

Or is it that this particular slant hasn't been introduced to the highest court yet?

 

by Blogger IlanaSimons on 05-29-2009 08:46 PM

To Ryan:

Thanks for the comment.  Another interesting issue here is how Rush Limbaugh and others on the Right are calling Sotomayor racist because she said her perspective would sometimes yield better insight than a more insulated one would.  That's one sticky political battle.

by Blogger IlanaSimons on 05-29-2009 08:48 PM - last edited on 05-30-2009 08:47 AM

To Tiggerbear,

Your last question is an interesting one.  Sotomayor does come with a new perspective, which is what makes it look so particular or specific.

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by on 05-29-2009 09:52 PM - last edited on 05-31-2009 03:51 AM by Blogger IlanaSimons
Sotomayor does come with a new perspective, which is what makes it look so particular or spegcific.
 That's just it, for those of us outside the cultural perspective the court formely had, are looking forward to a greater mix. Why do others find it theatening?
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by on 05-29-2009 10:10 PM

Ok sorry that's an odd glitch there. The massive space was unintentional.

 

by Blogger IlanaSimons on 05-31-2009 04:04 AM - last edited on 05-31-2009 09:21 PM

To Tiggerbear,

I hope you don't mind--I went in and took out the big space in your post. 

 

There's a new field in some American colleges' curricula called "White studies," in which students study what it is to be White.  The dominant (in America: White) culture often passes as "normal" or "innate."  Our culture has historically positioned the White viewpoint as the point of neutrality from which other viewpoints merely deviate.  (An Afro has been seen as a less than ideal deviation from straight hair; an Indian accent presents more than just a practical problem when you're looking for a job.)  White studies tries to undo the assumption that White is innate by investigating what particular or specific characteristics come with White culture, just as African American Studies studies the particulars of that culture.  The underlying idea is that the White perspective is so dominant that many see it as innate truth or normalcy--and that that perceptive needs correcting.

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by on 05-31-2009 01:48 PM

Oh no I don't mind, thank you. I have no idea what happened there.

 

hmm tisk, my gut feels like that is in insult.  Why do we in this time do we try to make people white. Did all the years of Indian (Native American) Schools teach anyone nothing? Wasn't at least some of the african American Black proud stuff about stopping to be white?

 

I can understand teaching people to speak clean english. The current not hiring a Indian accent, comes form the other side of the phone. When you hear a Indian ascent did you think you still talking to someone in America? No you think they'd passed you over to someone in India or Pakistan. That does not come from a dislike of Indians, but from way too much outsourseing. 

 

White as the innate truth, is a nasty lie. They're not in the majority in the world. And somewhere in the next or less hundred years they won't be in America either.

 

English language is another matter entirely.

 

by on 05-31-2009 06:25 PM

TB, I see your several points.  How to address them is another matter.

 

Some (being who knows how many), very conservative thinkers [which there will always be], see black as black, and white as white...according to their thinking background/heritage,  yours (collectively) has to match up with theirs.   They hear a voice, they think one way; they see a name, they think one way; they see a skin color, they think one way; and the list goes on.  If you're a empathic thinker, as that  color may go grey....they  only see it as black or white.  There are no greys for them, to lead them to thoughtful thinking.

 

You can try to educate people in seeing differently, offer courses of all kinds (which may, or may not work).  People who take courses to educate themselves, are the ones who want to see the change, in both themselves and in others, no matter the subject.  They are the open thinkers. 

 

These are the people in power/leadership/government, who can balance in the long run [as far as I can tell], what decisions are best for the majoriety.

 

Empathic thinking most likely originates from that person's personal background, as do prejudices.  This is an over simplistic explanation, but that's how I view it. 

As I see it,  anyone who can see the greys, can also see the blacks and whites.

by on 05-31-2009 06:36 PM

I wish there were a way to edit...some of what I said wasn't very clear.

K.

by on 05-31-2009 08:42 PM

(sigh) Ok Kathy your post made me think of a conversation I had the other day, about boxes.

 

Some people insist on putting you in a box (who they think you are).

Some people never notice that you don't fit into that box.

Some people notice your elbow is sticking out of the box, so they stick you in a new one.

Some people notice your elbow sticking out and deside to get to know you

Some people notice that you didn't fit in that second box, or the third; and get angry at you.

And some people refuse to use boxes.

 

 

by on 05-31-2009 09:17 PM

(sigh) Myself...what can ya do?  Create your own box?  I hate stupid boxes!  I'm inclined to rooms.  Thinking is a good thing, though.

 

I hope my comments didn't cause you stress, TB.  It causes me stress to write about things/perspectives, in the general sense,  that are so beyond, and narrow......you can't put a name to it.

 

My head is always sticking out of my room.... :smileyhappy:

by Blogger IlanaSimons on 05-31-2009 09:24 PM

To Tiggerbear about the "insult" part:

I hope my post wasn't misleading.  White Studies is an attempt to show that the particularities of white culture are not universal, however much they parade as universal.  The study is an attempt to help us white people know that we, too, have some particular sets of values and assumptions.

by Blogger IlanaSimons on 05-31-2009 09:26 PM

To Tiggerbear about the "insult" part:

I hope my post wasn't misleading.  White Studies is an attempt to show that the particularities of white culture are not universal, however much they parade as universal.  The study is an attempt to help us white people know that we, too, have some particular sets of values and assumptions.

by byb on 05-31-2009 11:02 PM
What happened to the view of the legal system and justice being impartial?  Empathy should have no place in the legal system.  That is not what the legal system is about.  It is about interpreting our Constitution with impartiality.  I cannot feel comfortable about a justice that will try to create what she or he thinks will make things "right" in his or her eyes.  What is fair in one person's eyes may not be fair in someone else's.  Retribution is not the job of the Supreme Court.
by on 05-31-2009 11:41 PM

Kathy, no no stress. Frustration from others, but not you. Me it's always an elbow sticking out, sharp pointy elbows. (chuckle)

 

To Tiggerbear about the "insult" part:

I hope my post wasn't misleading.  White Studies is an attempt to show that the particularities of white culture are not universal, however much they parade as universal.  The study is an attempt to help us white people know that we, too, have some particular sets of values and assumptions.

 

I did not mean you insulted me. Just the thought of such is insulting.

Hmm attempt, from the outside it shows something else. Now I'm itching to see a sylabus, to see how the professors lay that out.  This just sounds like nice intentions that end up starting wars.

 

by on 05-31-2009 11:42 PM

What happened to the view of the legal system and justice being impartial?

 

Didn't that go out somewhere in the 80tys?

by on 06-01-2009 12:11 AM

byb,

 

The problem, from the begining of time, is what /who created that "justice".  The term used for justice was from whom?  Laws didn't just appear out of nowhere.  They were created for a reason.  Created by human beings.  Every creation, as word is created,  has a purpose. But falible.   The more thoughts that can wrap themselves around purpose, the more centered the thoughts will become.

 

What makes a good thought?  What makes impartiality? 

 

What and who, can make a good interpretation of these laws?  Balance.  It's always a balance.  And balance can only be achieved by a wide knowledge of everything that pertains to that law.  You give your perspective, and I give mine...how does the scale tip?

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