12 Replies Latest reply: Jun 15, 2013 6:03 AM by usafa2015

    NookColor NOT parent friendly...

      I purchased each one of my kids a NC last week. My kids are both UN-schooled (Homeschooled) and I thought it would be a great tool to add to their studying…especially when traveling.  But it looks like B&N has given ZERO forethought to parents when they designed these things..

       

       

      -- How about adding a feature so the parent can LOCK the WiFi into the OFF position so it can only be turned on with the correct password?

       

       

      --  How about allowing parents to remove choices from the dropdown list when browsing for books?....like being able to REMOVE the Gay and Lesbian section from my 5 year old's list?

       

       

      -- How about creating an educational section for downloading certain curriculums for kids?  Math, History, etc....

        

      -- How about having a kid friendly browser available in the "choose your default browser" list?  Like www . kidrex . org ? Instead of Bing, Yahoo or Google....

       

       

      Wake up B&N...MANY of your NC users are smaller children.

       

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          There are a few functions within the Nook Color that you can currently utilize that may help you maintain some of the control you desire. You can always set a passcode to unlock the device prior to use, as well as protect purchases by requiring an authorization before a purchase. Most of the control that you desire to exhibit would be done through your wireless router, not the Nook Color itself.

           

          You can easily restrict access to the internet via limiting MAC addresses through the router, as well as the type of sites visited. All of this can be explained by calling your routers manufacturers customer service line, or looking it up on the internet for yourself.

           

          As for the limitations and restrictions to browsing subjects within the Barnes and Noble store: Barnes and Noble has always held a fierce policy when it comes to censorship, and believe it to be the responsibility of the parents to maintain control over their children if they desire to restrict certain materials from their grasp. I'm sure you wouldn't let your child run through a Barnes and Noble store by themselves as your shopping, just to find out that they would run straight to the Gay and Lesbian section with your disapproval. Considering that it's a 5 year-old in question I can safely make the assumption that an innocent stumble upon the section would do little to no damage (as it shouldn't regardless of age) to the child.

           

          The creation of an educational section is a fantastic idea and should be passed up along the line for the developers to consider! Barnes and Noble is well aware that they have a large customer base that's devoted to children; and it shows by the amount of childrens content that is currently avaliable throughout the Barnes and Noble store. We must remember that it's not other peoples responsibility to raise our children for us, but our own responsibility to personally oversee the way we wish to raise our children. Close and diligent monitoring and being active in all aspects of a child's life to positive development.

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              Your suggestions do not address the issue.  Because the ISSUE is the desire on the part of the CUSTOMER to control the function of his/her product. What about public WiFi?  And BOTH of us are home all day....we monitor and approve ALL of their TV, books, video games and internet usage.  But you can't duck tape the side of your head to theirs all day.  All of your suggestions are a pain in the crack.  A simple password protect (just like the one used to make purchases) would solve the problem.  Period.

               

              And there is nothing wrong with asking for a kid friendly browser choice.  How much money did Bing, Google and Yahoo pay to be the only choices listed?

               

               

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              I am a mother and grandmother and I am here to tell you that children learn what the live. You can talk to children of all ages until you are blue in the face, they will learn by example. We tell our children not to lie, and then they hear us on the phone telling a so-called white lie, because it is more convenient than the truth.

              When I was raising my children the big controversy was record and movie ratings. I never understood the whole thing. If you know what your children are watching and listening to, you wouldn't need to depend on someone, somewhere, to determine what is appropriate for your children in your home.

              I know this takes more time and attention than letting other people do your job of raising your children.

              If you are leery of the internet then supervise their use of it. Don't expect parental controls to do it the way you want it done.

              My son has two girls 12 and 5. The family computer is in the family room and they are well supervised. My son and his wife have electronic devices and not all the content is suitable for children, simple solution, passwords. The cable is set for as appropriate for children. The parents DVR all their shows and watch them after the children go to bed. Again, passwords do the trick. My son and his wife both work full time but they take the time to determine and protect their girls from inappropriate content. What is deemed as appropriate for their children is decided by , you guessed it, the parents.

               

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                mariel9898

                The irony of the OPs posts is truly amazing. Almost as bad as the arrogance and self entitlement. I'd laugh if it wasn't for the fact that there are children being raised by this person.

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                    I currently homeschool my 10yr old. This is my fourth HS child, I have never had a problem controlling what and when my children view on the internet or TV. I also realize that they can't be babies forever. When they were younger I did not allow them to have the internet password. My 10yr old uses the NC all the time I just turn off wifi or sometimes just turn off the router. I also have a setting in my router that only allows access to wifi during certain hours. I do not think that there should be a problem unless the parent is unable to fully supervise what is happening with their child's access to things they deem unacceptable. My children have asked about gay/lesbian things and I explained them in a vague manner that wouldn't allow for any other questions. If the parent is against explaining things in a manner that matches the ages of the children then the password for the internet in the house should be kept confidential. At some point the outside world will pop up and smack you in the face and then you be forced to answer things when you don't expect to, sometimes it is best to follow your instincts and come up with a solution on your own that your family can live with.

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                        I almost forgot 3 of my children now go to public school. I have 2 freshmen, 1 in sixth grade. I think that the choice to HS should be a choice but so should public school. As the OP thinks that homeschool apparently makes them so important that they lost the "people have the right to choose" idea then shame on them.

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                        I guess the OP has shown an unwillingness or perhaps inability to use "teachable moments" since the swearing started.  Do you use that mouth at home?  Or is it just reserved for people that you think are special?

                         

                        And, you know whether a child is homeschooled or public school schooled is a matter of choice.  But to make a blanket statement that every public school kid is some type of worthless trash again shows me that your parent filter is rather porous.

                         

                        You want independent-minded kids?  Then perhaps it is best that you teach them that there are others out there that are different and don't live in the bubble you have created.  I am not making a broad claim about all home-schoolers, but am speaking to this one person's ideas specifically.

                         

                        At the church I grew up in was the most decent, kindest lady that taught youth group classes.  She'd pick me up for church when my mom was too sick to take me, after my dad had died.  She also initiated a program that taught us about other religions and took us to Synagogues as well as other Christian churches.  There were no mosques nearby in those days, but I've no doubt she would have taken us there as well if there had been.  The idea was for us to learn that others see things differently and that knowledge is power.

                         

                        Some of those kids that you are so quick to disparage are not as fortunate as others.  Some don't have caring parents or parents that have any kind of money at all.  But they will live in the same world as your children when they are all grown up and some how, some way your children will have to live with them.

                         

                        Teachable moments come about when you least expect them.  If you teach and show your kids the kinds of values (not some that you've shown here) that will make them decent people, they hopefully will grow up to be so.  But, hiding them away and only not ever allowing them to mingle with kids you see as trash, won't guarantee it.  It's possible that by seeing others outside their sphere they may learn compassion, gratitude, humility, tolerance, empathy, and even a sense of a broader community.  You'll probably say that's socialism.  When actually this country was partly founded on the ideals of a sense of community.  The sense of Americans as opposed to just colonists.

                         

                        If you only ever teach your kids the things you think are true, you really will end up with mindless robots instead of kids with independent minds.

                         

                        I have a niece and 2 nephews that went to public schools.  There were all kinds of different kids there.  Some spoiled, some from broken homes, some from less well-healed circumstances, and some from very over-protective homes.  My niece and nephews never learned that they were better than these other kids, but they learned they were different and in some cases more fortunate.  They learned not to allow bullies to rule, they learned to stick up for one another, they learned to think for themselves and they learned compassion and how to get along with people that are different.

                         

                        Good luck.

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                        I just discovered that there is at least one way to control the web on your NC. You go into settings, then security, then click on restrictions. Once you're in there, it will allow you to set a 4 digit passcode and choose whether you want your web browser, social, or both restricted with the passcode. Once you've restricted the browser, the only way to go into the browser is to then go back in through settings and un-select it. I know this doesn't help your shop issue (which I have problems with as well. Not so much for my kids as for the fact that I don't like the number of gay/lesbian/soft porn options that I come across!), but it could at least help you with your web issue. I hope that this helps you. My kids are 6, 5 and 3 and I let them play on my NC, but they aren't allowed to turn on the Wifi. Unfortunately, apps like Words with Friends allow you to try to connect through the app which my kids don't understand they're doing yet. They've started quite a few games with my friends! I do wish there were a way to lock the wifi with a simple 4 digit passcode. I know that I would have to find a place to store the code if I were to have my NC forget my code after every time logging in on wifi. For me, it's not realistic, but the web browser at least gives me the option of turning off the web so that they don't accidentally start browsing YouTube after they click something on Angry Birds!

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                          Block the gay and lesbians?  Lolz, are they really that much of a threat to your children?  At five kids should be able to know and understand that there are people that are different from there own family and that it's ok.  I get that you might have an issue with homosexuality do to religious reasons, but say your a Christian would you go and block books with Jewish characters?  I'm just saying that giving your children the idea that they should avoid people with different opinions from them implies that the lgbt community is "bad" which is what causes hatefulness in schools then later on work.  Teach your kids that you don't agree with homosexuality and why by all means, but don't raise them to be hurtful.  Gay people are entitled to their own opinions and shouldn't be outcast's.  We're all human at the end of the day. 

                           

                          Sorry, I'm just very sensitive about this issue do to personal experience/stories like Larry Kings (which if you haven't heard he was a little boy who got shot and killed by a classmate for asking another little boy to be his valentine).  Just hoping you'll keep this stuff in mind while making parenting decisions and understand that it does make a negative impact on innocent people.

                          • Re: NookColor NOT parent friendly...

                            Yes it is! I made a blog about how to make it 100% safe and better

                             

                            http://nooksecurity.wordpress.com/