7 Replies Latest reply on Oct 9, 2010 2:19 PM by kc5455

    More good reads like "A Song of Ice and Fire"?

      I read the 4 books, two times while waiting for his next book to release(umm hurry the f up) and then i tried switching back to some forgotten realms and christopher moore, and i just cant seem to get the same depth of reading. Ice and Fire was rich in character developement and political intrigue, and i would like some more "adult" stuff like that. Its cool that no one dies in the forgotten realms really, but I liked watching main characters get slaughtered whole sale...any good fantasy series like that out there?

        • Re: More good reads like "A Song of Ice and Fire"?
          flyingtoastr

          Short answer, no.

           

          No one writes epic fantasy like GRRM.

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            Not epic fantasy, but...

             

            The series with the highest body count around is the First Law trilogy by Joe Abercrombie, including The Blade Itself, Before They Are Hanged and Last Argument of Kings. Fantastic characters and dark, bloody storyIine. I love this series, but they aren't in ebook format yet. He has a standalone, Best Served Cold, which IS in ebook and I can't wait to read it.

             

            The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch is different than your usual fantasy fare. The hero is a genius of a conman that heads a gang of thieves. It's gritty and fun. The sequel is Red Seas Under Red Skies, and the third book, Republic of Thieves, will be out next year.

             

            And though I've yet to start it, numerous other Song of Ice and Fire fans have recommended Steven Erikson's Malazan Book of the Fallen series to me. I'm told its similar in complexity and quality to SoIaF. The first installment is Gardens of the Moon.

             

            I really wanted to include cover art/links, but couldn't figure out how. Curse my computer illiteracy!

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              Dyrinn45 wrote:

              I read the 4 books, two times while waiting for his next book to release(umm hurry the f up) and then i tried switching back to some forgotten realms and christopher moore, and i just cant seem to get the same depth of reading. Ice and Fire was rich in character developement and political intrigue, and i would like some more "adult" stuff like that. Its cool that no one dies in the forgotten realms really, but I liked watching main characters get slaughtered whole sale...any good fantasy series like that out there?


               

              Tales from the Malazan Book of the Fallen, Steven Erikson.

               

              The first book is titled Gardens of the Moon. If you're looking for senseless slaughter, book 2, Deadhouse Gates should sate your bloodlust nicely.

               

              Frankly, the world-building is better than Martin's, the writing style is slightly more cumbersome and apt to wander, metaphysically, but the character development is quite good. Action scenes are amazing, and actually included in the story (A peeve of mine... by book 3, Martin had developed a nasty habit of having exciting and important events happen "offscreen" and get related into the story third-hand).

               

              And lots of people die or are otherwise corrupted and defiled. The only difference is that it seems a little more rational and evenhanded in Erikson's world. The evil and corrupt are just as likely to die horribly or senselessly as the good guys.

               

              Superior to ASOIAF, in my opinion.

               

              Edit:

              Also, Erikson has a nice track record; 9 books, a year to 18 months between each book. Last book is almost published. No worries about waiting for ten years for the author to decide he doesn't know what to do and has to rewrite the last book from scratch.

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                  TrevorS wrote:

                   

                  Tales from the Malazan Book of the Fallen, Steven Erikson.

                   

                  The first book is titled Gardens of the Moon. If you're looking for senseless slaughter, book 2, Deadhouse Gates should sate your bloodlust nicely.

                   

                  Frankly, the world-building is better than Martin's, the writing style is slightly more cumbersome and apt to wander, metaphysically, but the character development is quite good. Action scenes are amazing, and actually included in the story (A peeve of mine... by book 3, Martin had developed a nasty habit of having exciting and important events happen "offscreen" and get related into the story third-hand).

                   

                  And lots of people die or are otherwise corrupted and defiled. The only difference is that it seems a little more rational and evenhanded in Erikson's world. The evil and corrupt are just as likely to die horribly or senselessly as the good guys.

                   

                  Superior to ASOIAF, in my opinion.

                   

                  Edit:

                  Also, Erikson has a nice track record; 9 books, a year to 18 months between each book. Last book is almost published. No worries about waiting for ten years for the author to decide he doesn't know what to do and has to rewrite the last book from scratch.


                  Part of what's kept me from wanting to read this was seeing the names of characters. I thought they were pretty silly and annoying. I guess I'm going to have to get over this at some point.

                   

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                    TrevorS wrote:

                    Dyrinn45 wrote:

                    I read the 4 books, two times while waiting for his next book to release(umm hurry the f up) and then i tried switching back to some forgotten realms and christopher moore, and i just cant seem to get the same depth of reading. Ice and Fire was rich in character developement and political intrigue, and i would like some more "adult" stuff like that. Its cool that no one dies in the forgotten realms really, but I liked watching main characters get slaughtered whole sale...any good fantasy series like that out there?


                     

                    Tales from the Malazan Book of the Fallen, Steven Erikson.

                     

                    The first book is titled Gardens of the Moon. If you're looking for senseless slaughter, book 2, Deadhouse Gates should sate your bloodlust nicely.

                     

                    Frankly, the world-building is better than Martin's, the writing style is slightly more cumbersome and apt to wander, metaphysically, but the character development is quite good. Action scenes are amazing, and actually included in the story (A peeve of mine... by book 3, Martin had developed a nasty habit of having exciting and important events happen "offscreen" and get related into the story third-hand).

                     

                    And lots of people die or are otherwise corrupted and defiled. The only difference is that it seems a little more rational and evenhanded in Erikson's world. The evil and corrupt are just as likely to die horribly or senselessly as the good guys.

                     

                    Superior to ASOIAF, in my opinion.

                     

                    Edit:

                    Also, Erikson has a nice track record; 9 books, a year to 18 months between each book. Last book is almost published. No worries about waiting for ten years for the author to decide he doesn't know what to do and has to rewrite the last book from scratch.


                    I concur.  This is one of my favorite series!

                     

                  • Re: More good reads like "A Song of Ice and Fire"?

                    I highly recommend

                    The Eye of the World (Wheel of Time Series #1) 

                     

                    If you don't like the Prologue, start with the first chapter and read the prologue later.