31 Replies Latest reply: Nov 19, 2013 7:53 PM by gb18

    New Glow Light, early impressions

    rbrenart

      Mine's charging now. It's setup, but I haven't read anything on it outside the user manual.

       

      I had the NST and the 1st gen nook, I skipped the first NSTG.

       

      So my first impressions...

       

      Screen is nice, lighting is very even except for the type couple centimeters where the lights actually come out. You can definitely see shadows there. Visually distracting when I'm looking at it, doubt I'll care when I'm reading.

       

      White bezel doesn't bother me, thought it would.

       

      My one big complain, they really borked up the case situation on this. I loved my old clip on case. I could slide my hand between the case and the back cover and it was a very comfortable way to hold the device. The new covers they're selling just don't do it for me. For $21 all they really are is a screen cover, they don't provide any protection to the device. I'll wait for the 3rd party cases and hope some one does a better job.

       

      So yeah, not much to say, but thought I'd start a thread.

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          LectorGS

          Thank you1 

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            keriflur

            What are your thoughts on the screen as compared to the NST with the light off on the NGL?  How do you find the contrast?

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              I realize that some people are hard on their devices but do you really think it needs a cover? My impression on these small eink devices is that they're relatively durable and it would take a fair amount to do damage to the thing. I used to have the Kindle one and I could throw it in my bag and whatever and the screen was never damaged or anything else.

                • Cover versus sleeve
                  bobstro

                  ConnieL4193 wrote:

                  I realize that some people are hard on their devices but do you really think it needs a cover?

                   

                  In the past, I've wrapped my toys in a portfolio-type case, or at least a full body cover with some sort of rigid screen cover and screen protector. As prices have come down, my priority has shifted to getting maximum enjoyment out of a device for the 2 years of active use rather than making sure it is in pristine condition when I stick it in a drawer for the last time.

                   

                  I think they need protection when being carried around in a bag (e.g. errant keychain), not so much in my mitts sitting around reading. I've moved to using a travel sleeve, along with a skin to protect against minor scratches. I'm torn on screen protectors, but they don't apply to the new NOOK GlowLight.

                   

                  There have been some posts using clever home-made wraps (roustabout, iirc) and tube socks that probably do the job more than adequately.

                   

                  My impression on these small eink devices is that they're relatively durable and it would take a fair amount to do damage to the thing. I used to have the Kindle one and I could throw it in my bag and whatever and the screen was never damaged or anything else.

                   

                  I worry less about the body than screen. For my little Mini, I've occasionally put a piece of cardboard over the screen held in place by a rubber band if nothing else was at hand. I'll always want my screen protected, particularly a larger (7 inch or more) screen that might be subject to flexing. I'll stick some sort of stiffener in the sleeve to protect the screen for those devices. Most eInk devices have the screen recessed a bit, so there's some protection, but I still worry about pens and keys getting loose.
                  I did just notice this on the product page: "... With a new top layer material and lamination process, NOOK GlowLight's display stands up to keys, pens, and anything else you might carry with you." I'm not sure "stands up to" means it's something like Corning Gorilla Glass, but I'm still inclined to protect the screen.
                    • Re: Cover versus sleeve
                      bobstro

                      There are some YouTube videos showing drop tests on the NST that might be informative. A corner hits splits the bezel from pocket height, but the screen is pretty well protected overall. The case, however, takes a beating.

                       

                      They also put a Kobo Aura through the same tests in another video.

                       

                      Of course, every drop will be different, but you can get a sense for how durable these units are.

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                      rbrenart

                      ConnieL4193 wrote:

                      I realize that some people are hard on their devices but do you really think it needs a cover? My impression on these small eink devices is that they're relatively durable and it would take a fair amount to do damage to the thing. I used to have the Kindle one and I could throw it in my bag and whatever and the screen was never damaged or anything else.


                      Funny you should mention that, the only real damage I did to a nook was the first generation when I got a pair of headphones stuck between the case and the screen. 

                       

                      I like the cases for two reasons 

                      1) The way I happen to read it makes it easier to hold.

                      2) I like my e-reader to be like a paperback book, I just throw it in my bag and forget about it. Now I feel like I have to pay more attention or get a sleeve which I'll misplace more often than I use.

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                        rafalweb
                        I wanted a case, but now I just store it in its box, and take it out when I want to read. The box is now small enough to carry around easily.
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                        Does the NGL still have the page turning buttons? That's one of my favorite features of my simple touch.

                        Thanks,
                        Hugh
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                          JCTNJ

                          Store functions are totally messed up for me. Anyone else having this?

                          Tapping on books after search does nothing ...

                          Doesn't return nearly full catalog of an author (5 books returned, when there are 23 nook books online) ...

                          BUY NOW button brings me to home page of store instead of book purchase page 

                          etc ...

                           

                           

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                            Wulfraed

                            Only because the new model falls into the member discount -- I bought one (the clerk had to go into the back room as the Nook cabinet was bare <G>).

                             

                            With the light OFF, the display is distinctly greyer than my 1st edition. And, being strictly a reader, there are no games (1st edition had chess and sudoku [though most formal suduko use a symetric starting pattern\).

                             

                            The display is about the same dimension as the 1st edition, but the overall form factor is "odd" (the extra length for the color touchpad makes the 1st edition feel more bookish). Okay, the increased resolution is nice -- I can run a smaller font size without feeling fuzzy.

                             

                            I'm waiting on covers. The current "clip" cover is junk. A 6x9 clasp envelope is as effective. My 1st edition has an easel cover -- using the magnetic closure it will stand up over a cafeteria tray.  My HD+ has the rotating stand. (I did buy a 1st edition cover with an LED light, but never used it).

                             

                            My HD+ primarily gets used for the crossword puzzle, MahJong, Bejeweled II, and the Nook web pages. With the new glowlight, the 1st Edition will likely be left at work (for reading Analog/Asimov and Sudoku), only coming out to refresh the magazine contents.

                             

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                              LectorGS

                              Regarding the syncing, does the device need to be on wi-fi for the syncing to happen?  Thanks

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                                Ok, so now here are MY first impressions. I really liked the look and feel of it. As stated previously, the white color doesn't bother me. I had a white Kindle once upon a time and it never bothered me then either. I personally think the screen is totally worth the upgrade. I had a NSTG for a short time before I returned it and I definitely remember thinking that the screen resolution was disappointing compared to what I was used to. I was hoping this one would be a significant improvement and it is. Very happy with it. After first signing in and registering, all my content started showing up and the book I'm currently reading was synced the the right page. I'll be keeping an eye on this as well because I want to be able to keep it in sync with my HD+ wihtout a whole lot of hassle.  The touch screen is also more responsive in my opinion. I can turn pages with very little effort (thumb press) so not having the physical keys is a non-issue for me.  About the only thing I will ding it for is the back cover. While the device is pretty and appears to be well made (mho), the back has no edge or lip on which to grab onto with one hand making it somewhat iffy trying to hold it and turn the page with one hand. Either I figure out how to hold it and do that without fear of dropping it or I'll have to come up with some other solution. Not crazy about using a case but we'll see what happens.

                                 

                                UPDATE:  I decided to test the whole syncing process since this was a definitely issue for me when I had my NSTG (returned). Upon connecting both devices to WiFi and watching them sync, I then went into my current book and low and behold all was right with the world! Both books are in sync. This is already an improvement because before I either had to keep telling one or both to sync or just give up and manually go the page I left off at on the other device. Not this time folks. There is reason for hope now.  :smileyvery-happy:

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                                  yarnmama

                                  I have had all 4 e-ink Nooks and the NGL is a definite improvment in text clarity. Other than that I can't see and huge improvements. Don't get me wrong, I am happy with it but it's honestly not much different that the NSTG, software wise. 

                                   

                                  ETA: the light is an improvement also although I honestly had no complaints with the NSTG light. :smileyhappy:

                                   

                                  I gave up on the idea of maintaining and=y shelving on my device long ago. I have over 250 Nook books plus a handful of ones bought elsewhere that I sideloa with Calibre. Well at least I used to. Calibre doesn't find my new NGL and I was forced to use the hated ADE to add my books. :smileyfrustrated: I am hoping the the calibre dev will add an update that will help out with this. That has been my only disappointment so far. I was bummed about the SD card removal at first, but even though I always kept a 2 or 4 g card in my NSTG, I rarely used it. I chose to put books in the internal storage so that my cover art would be displayed. Yes, that bugged me about the SD card so not a great loss to me personally. 

                                   

                                  As for syncing, I have two devices with the Nook for Android app and an HD+ beside my NGL. The syncing works sometimes but is still not totally reiable. I find that if you actually navigate to the library and hit sync before leaving off a book and then when re-opening it on the other device go to the library first and hit sync before opening the book it is more likely to work. 

                                   

                                  The white is matte and doesn't bother me. I have a little silicone frame that I bought for my NSTG that fits it fine if I want to use that. Also the neoprene sleeve I had for it fits great too. These were bought from BN awile back but they aren't on the website anymore. I wish they would make them again. I don't like using covers on my devices. I just want a sleeve to protect the screen in my bag and the silicone frames are great for adding extra grip. 

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                                    One additional observation: I have both the HD+ and NGL now and I can now make one more comment. I think most my initial frustrations (being new to Nook) were due in large part to the web site and not the device. That's good news (sort of) since they are supposed to fix the web site next year I hope. Oh and one other thing, something that really stuck out concerning the NGL. That little device is very quick picking up a WiFi signal, even my phones hotspot. I was actually pretty surprised by that because everything else I've conected to it (including the HD+) wasn't nearly as fast and in fact, I often times have to go into the settings to get the HD+ to start "looking" for the signal. The NGL connects almost as soon as I wake it up. Most Excellent! My syncing between both devices is also about as good as it will get, certainly enough to satisfy me.

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                                        NookGardener

                                        Two questions hope you can answer (downloaded the user manual, but dont see these addressed anywhere):

                                         

                                        1) On the NST, B&N insists that it must download your most recent 5 or so purchases everytime you turn on wifi and sync library. (Automatically does this, have never figured out way to stop this.) Does the new NGL do this? Could live with the small memory, as long as could EASILY control what is downloaded. But if the NGL behaves the same way as the NST, its a sale killer for me.

                                        2) Is the "profile" feature from the HD series carried over to the NGL?

                                         

                                        TIA for any insights you can offer on these items!!!

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                                            I can't say positively what happened but I am relativley certain that when I got my new NGL up and running it did NOT download everything I had. I'm relatively new to Nook so my library isn't all that big at the moment (28 books, 21 magazines, and video). My Nook didn't download all of this although I don't recall exactly how many it did do, I still had to go in and manually download some of them. So I guess I can say that yes, it did automoatically download some of them but not all.  As for the profiles, I don't see that on the NGL.

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                                              geertm

                                              NookGardener wrote:

                                              Two questions hope you can answer (downloaded the user manual, but dont see these addressed anywhere):

                                               

                                              1) On the NST, B&N insists that it must download your most recent 5 or so purchases everytime you turn on wifi and sync library. (Automatically does this, have never figured out way to stop this.) Does the new NGL do this? Could live with the small memory, as long as could EASILY control what is downloaded. But if the NGL behaves the same way as the NST, its a sale killer for me.

                                              2) Is the "profile" feature from the HD series carried over to the NGL?

                                               

                                              TIA for any insights you can offer on these items!!!


                                              Small memory?
                                              The NGL has 2 GB for B&N content, almost three times as much as the NST (750MB), and almost twice as much as the Kindle Paperwhite (1,25GB).

                                               

                                               

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                                                Mercury_Glitch
                                                Don't see any profiles. The NGL settings mirror the NSTG. As for syncing I'm not sure. There's archiving, but it archives for all devices then.
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                                              Hey all. At the risk of getting thrown under the bus here, could we move on from this whole shelving issue please? I get that it's an important thing to many of you but i'd like to hear thoughts and opinions about the rest of the device.  I would assume you have those too?  :smileyindifferent:

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                                                Just bought mine yesterday, so this review is of initial impressions.  (As background, I own one of each Nook e-reader there is all the way back to the original one, along with a couple of the HD and HD+ tablets, so I am a longtime customer and fan of Nooks.)

                                                First impressions once I got my new NOOK GlowLight home:  REALLY noticed and was surprised by how gray the background of the screen is compared to my Nook SimpleTouch and SimpleTouch Glowlight!  It is possible I have a defective unit (more on that later), as I did not notice the screen being so gray when I was looking at demo models in the local B&amp;N store before I bought mine.  Initially wondered if grayness was a matter of contrast compared to the new white case color, and perhaps some of the effect is that, but laying it side by side with my old Nook SimpleTouch Glowlight, and even overlapping the screens with the exact same content displayed on both, it is NOT just an optical illusion based on the different case border colors.  Note that this was all without using the GlowLight feature on either Nook.  Once you turn on the GlowLight on the new NOOK (at about the 50 percent level) the new screen whitens out significantly and things look fine.  (By the way, then new GlowLight is MUCH better than the previous GlowLight, in brightness, whiteness, and evenness, so I really do like that improvement!)

                                                OK, so I kind’ve hate the new grayish screen, but it is fixable if I choose to leave the Glowlight on at half brightness all the time.  According to battery life specs from B&amp;N, it seems like that won’t affect time between charges much.  But, I can’t understand why the new NOOK should take a step backward when it comes to basic screen contrast.

                                                Next problem (which makes me think I have a defective unit) is that right out of the box I had lots of problems with the touch screen not responding.  Particularly in the SHOP mode, it was simply impossible to get the NOOK to respond by touching one of the book icons when browsing through the store or in a list of books found using the Search tool.  Funny thing is, all other parts of the touch screen would work—you could use the back button or select another search, but trying to bring up a book in the SHOP application just wouldn’t work.  Once I did a full reboot, I did get this to work, but it has intermittently failed several times since then.  So, based on that alone, I will need to take this NOOK back for an exchange…or just a refund if I can’t get over the gray screen thing (I will look again at store models to see if the screen grayness is less pronounced—again, maybe I just got a defective unit).

                                                A few quick positive comments:  LOVE the sharpness of the new screen and the fonts look great;  much improved GlowLight as mentioned above; form factor is nice…though I wish it still had either the manual page turn buttons and/or a reconfigurable touch screen to handle page turns better; like many others, I wish it still had microSD card slot, but I can live without that; very happy to see the increase in on-board memory.

                                                So, in summary, and sadly, this is the first NOOK purchase with which I have been really disappointed.  Each time before, every NOOK purchase was a great experience where I was thrilled with the new features, better readability, faster response, better form-factor, etc.  This time I am trying to decide if it’s worth keeping.

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                                                    rbrenart

                                                    So I just got back from a week long trip with my new nook.

                                                     

                                                    Couple quick updates...

                                                     

                                                    1) The screen is definitely more gray than the NST. This is not a bezel color optical illusion. That said, the color difference doesn't affect the reading one bit.

                                                     

                                                    2) Showing some one how absurdly bright the screen gets I noticed that my nook had one tiny little glow hole. Nothing that affects reading, but it's there.

                                                     

                                                    3) I put 3 scratches in it in a week. I was on the beach so there's a good chance I can't fault the device if I got sand on it (although I don't think I did). They're only noticeable with the light turned up too bright, in direct sunlight, or if I look at an oblique angle that is not friendly to reading... but I know they're there!

                                                     

                                                    Ok that's the trivial stuff... to me there are two more points which are actually of import to me...

                                                     

                                                    1) This device is definitely not as comfortable one handed as the NST

                                                     

                                                    2) The screen/light/etc. is awesome. The bezel color discussions and grayness of the screen mean completely nothing somewhere around page 2 of reading, this thing is really a joy to read on.

                                                     

                                                      • Decalgirl skins
                                                        TXAnnie
                                                        When I contacted customer service to see when the nook glowlight skins would be out, they said at the end of November. I just looked at their web site and selected the nook touch screen skins. It states that they also fit the "new glow" and are priced at $14.99.
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                                                      As someone who used the page buttons to allow myself to read in the tub/pool, I shall be searching for good used copies of the older model. Bagged nook is 95% of my usage, so taking that option away is highly annoying, but I have no choice.

                                                      The other issue keeping me from the new model is the decreased space for sideloaded storage. The ability to sideload really makes the nook a different animal from the kindle. I see cutting back on it as a move towards eliminating it all together. I hate the idea that a book I buy isn't mine, but is rented from the bookseller, who may say when, where and how I read it, allow it to be borrowed, etc. I'm willing to jump to the first non-drm'd device someone can name, but the nook was a nice halfway option, allowing me to buy from a seller with alot of inventory, but still comparison shop prices. I want to have books, not BandN or Kindle books. Just books.