45 Replies Latest reply on Nov 5, 2013 5:01 PM by MacMcK1957

    New NOOK Glowlight

    flyingtoastr

      Let's get this out of the way first:

      There are no page turn buttons

      There is no SD card slot

       

      Grab yer pitchforks and torches and get it out of your system.

       

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      Good? Ok.

       

      The new NOOK Glowlight is available immediately (yes, in stock at stores and online now). The device weighs 6 ounces, has a high resolution (758x1024) eInk Pearl Regal Wave screen, 4GB of internal memory, and IS FINALLY AVAILABLE IN WHITE AGAIN I'VE MISSED YOU.

       

      Ahm. Sorry.

       

      The interface has been rebuilt to leave you always only a single click away from your book. And, importantly, the Glowlight diffraction layer has been improved so it doesn't impact the screen contrast.

       

      The cost is $119. Members save 10%.

        • Re: New NOOK Glowlight

          "Good? Ok."

           

          No.  Not OK.  These are my two favorite features (and I prefer the black bezel as well), and also what made the Nook stand out among its competitors.  Less choice and fewer features is rarely "good".  I'm jumping ship.

            • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
              tcs

              Sleel wrote:

              "Good? Ok."

               

              No.  Not OK.  These are my two favorite features (and I prefer the black bezel as well), and also what made the Nook stand out among its competitors.  Less choice and fewer features is rarely "good".  I'm jumping ship.


              I second the "Not OK"!

               

              I can live without the buttons, and I actually like the white (I have a smoke HD), but the lack of an SD Card is a big negative, given the sideloading restriction.  It seems way over priced for a new model with fewer features.  I think I'll wait for the next model, which hopefully will be a step foreward!

                • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
                  MacMcK1957
                  The more I see the more I think that this model was primarily not designed to tempt existing NST or NSTG users to upgrade. It seems specifically designed to match the Kindle Paperwhite. No buttons, like the KPW. No SD card slot, like the KPW. Available space, weight, size, pixel density, all basically a match to the KPW. This is not a device targeted to me. It's targeted to the customer thinking about a KPW.
              • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
                bobstro

                The lack of removable storage is a disappointment, but less of an issue if the device is easily managed. If they've improved shelving and other features, for those of us only using eInk as a secondary reader, it's not such a big deal. I have to think this'll cause heartburn for those who buy extensively and exclusively from B&N. Odd group to alienate.

                 

                The buttons are another odd decision if you ask me. I didn't always use them, but I liked having the option. There still seems to be room on the bezel for them.

                 

                I'm not crazy about white, but there will be plenty of skins available from decalgirl and others to fix that. I would like the bezel to be a subdued color for outdoor reading.

                 

                I like the shape, at least based on appearances. The outer dimensions look to be the same as the NST, but the lozenge, bulging front may cause problems with some cases.

                 

                Still basing it off Android 2.1 will be a serious disappointment for the mod community, though I'm not surprised that didn't concern B&N. Perhaps unified firmware with the NST?

                 

                It sounds a lot like a Kobo Mini with a larger and sharper screen. I'll have to see the screen before deciding whether to go for one, but I'm glad I jumped for the Mini when it was $39. The new NOOK is definitely an incremental step sideways. They still show the NST on the data sheets I'm finding, so those who don't want the screen features will still have device with more storage available.

                  • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
                    orb9220

                    Hmmm of course many of us will be disappointed.

                    With only $10 decrease? in retail price.

                    And removing color choices as I detest white in devices due to wear and scuffing shows easier.

                    So now need to spend $15-$20 to change the color? How is that a savings?

                    Then removing SD card to many user's will not be worth the $119 price to them. It seems to me more of cutting unit cost while maintaining a higher net profit. Could be wrong and just guessing here. So be sure to point out my observation if i'm missing something.

                    Not saying it's a fail as for many those won't be an issue and $10 less and better screen?

                    isn't exactly a slap in the face. But removing options and features makes you wonder what else they have removed or cut corners on?

                    And wonder if they changed the backlight situation any.

                    As some complained of uneven lighting and loss contrast.

                    Will have to read some reviews before a finally decision for me and my needs.
                    .

                  • Re: New NOOK Glowlight

                    The SD slot isn't an automatic "no sale" for me, but it does hang the appeal of this device entirely upon the volunteer developers and the Android base. If people are able to get alternative readers, RSS, manga and the like working, then the screen is good enough and I can maybe live with the limited storage. I'm still thinking the Kobo Aura HD might be the better way to go, though. I've been wanting to pull the trigger on my first E Ink device for about a year now, since the pixel density started getting into a reasonable range compared with the tablets I'm used to, but there are so many trade-offs in every new device.

                      • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
                        laurieb52

                        They should have had 8 gig of storage if they weren't doing an SD card slot. The 4 Gig is enough for me right now, but it's likely I would run out of space in about 18 months.

                         

                        I'm waiting to see what shelving is like before I decide....

                          • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
                            I read earlier on Cnet, I think, that members would get a 10% discount. that would be a first.
                            • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
                              keriflur

                              laurieb52 wrote:

                              They should have had 8 gig of storage if they weren't doing an SD card slot. The 4 Gig is enough for me right now, but it's likely I would run out of space in about 18 months.


                              This is me exactly. If I can mod it to 8 gb, I'll bite. But $119 for a device that I'll be able to use for only a year or so? I'm not sure it's worth it. 

                          • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
                            Htom_Serveaux

                            No SD card: sounds bad, but then I always stick SD cards in every device I have that accepts them and then find I have nothing or next to nothing on them.  So I'll deal.

                             

                            No buttons: IS bad, I hate touching the screen and I always use the buttons.  Either have to finger up the screen or resort to toting a stylus around.

                             

                            White frame: Yuck.  Seems kind of 90's, but it's not a make-or-break.

                             

                            I wish they would have put that display in a non-glow-light version.  I retired my NSTG for two NSTs (while they were on sale) because I was tempted to check out the NST by it's sale price and found the display was vastly better than the NSTG.  So unless the light diffraction layer has simply disappeared (and that just doesn't seem possible) the full impact of all those lovely pixels will be masked.

                             

                            All that said, I always wind up with the new nook.  :-)

                             

                            • Re: New NOOK Glowlight

                              Well I certainly understand why some people wouldn't like it because they sideload other stuff but for those of us who read only B&N content, it probably won't matter much. As for the page turn buttons, I guess that too is a matter of getting used to. Guess it isn't that big of a deal for me. For me it's all about the screen so I'll have to go check it out. What I DO find interesting is that they are offering a 10% discount to B&N Members, something they have never done in the past to my knowledge. Now THAT is nice, although might I also add at this point that they could have been doing that all along to encourage people to actually become members. Seriously. Just seems like B&N is constantly missing opportunities like this - offering all kinds of in-store "extras" to Nook owners.  C'Mon B&N, I know you can do better.

                                • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
                                  flyingtoastr

                                  BN offered a discount to Members on devices back in the day. They offered $25 off a NOOK Color or NOOK Tablet with a Membership, which incidentally also cost $25 a year. So it was, in effect, a free year Membership for anyone who bought a NOOK.

                                   

                                  The idea behind the Membership is that it makes you more likely to shop at BN - when you want a new book you'll choose to buy it from BN because you get an extra discount on it over the price you'd pay elsewhere. It turned out that these free Memberships that BN was giving NOOK owners didn't really help with anything - most of them never were used, and they simply weren't a reason to buy a NOOK over a Kindle - just an added bonus that hurt the company's margins.

                                   

                                  BN really needs to get rid of the MasterCard and move that 5% rebate over onto the Membership. If I were in charge I would change the program to look something like this:

                                   

                                  10% off everything in stores (including NOOK accessories)

                                  40% off hardcover bestsellers

                                  Free express shipping

                                  5% ebook rebate (for every $100 you spend, get a $5 credit instantly added to the NOOK account)

                                • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
                                  ewilson1114

                                  At first I was a bit upset at no microSD card slot, but I don't think I have enough sideloaded books for that to really matter.

                                  I AM upset about no hardware page turn buttons and it may be a dealbreaker for me. I would like a nicer screen and the lighting (I have just a regular NST right now) so I'll have to go in store and check it out in person to see if that makes up for the lack of page turn buttons.

                                  I just don't understand why they would take those off. Those buttons are 90% of the reason I chose Nook over Kindle.

                                    • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
                                      Mercury_Glitch

                                      Picked one up just now (I was the first one to purchase it at my store)

                                       

                                      The screen - much improved over the NSTG, I loaded the same screensaver I have on the NSTG (a custom one) and compared the two side by side.  The NGL is a sharper image and better contrast.  I believe they have effectively solved the issue caused by the light screen. 

                                       

                                      The glowlight- yes this was improved markedly.  It's a soft glow over the whole screen and while I have not tested in total darkness (hard to do at 10am) I have tested it in low light situations that would otherwise prohibit reading, it looks GOOD. 

                                       

                                      Page turn buttons - meh, this thing is LIGHT, anyone who was holding the NST/G with one hand should easily be able to hold this and adjust to tapping the screen (anyone who was already doing so should find it easier).  Seriously, the NGL is almost an ounce lighter than the NSTG (I believe it's a 0.75 ounce difference for the penny counters out there). 

                                       

                                      Storage- remains to be seen, but I remain hopeful.

                                       

                                      My one grip is cases, my store only had demo ones in, and I was not a fan of the style.  The ones we have clip to the side of the NGL and are just a flap to cover the screen.  The shell I have for my NSTG doesn't really work since the NGL is a touch thinner than the NSTG.  So I guess I'll play the waiting game for B&N to release a better case or for a third party to do so.

                                        • New NOOK GlowLight flip cover
                                          bobstro
                                          Mercury_Glitch wrote:
                                          My one grip is cases
                                          The day ain't over yet. :smileyhappy:
                                          , my store only had demo ones in, and I was not a fan of the style.  The ones we have clip to the side of the NGL and are just a flap to cover the screen.
                                          It looks like the case folds into a stand for landscape use, though the unit can't actually be used in landscape orientation, or can it? When folded, the cover can prop the reader up vertically, but that's an awkward reading position. Being on the left, it also looks like it'll be cumbersome to use one handed if held in the left hand if you just fold it back. In one review, I saw it held with the folded cover used as a grip. How comfortable is that position for one-handed page flipping?
                                        • Re: New NOOK Glowlight

                                          I used to use the side buttons almost exclusively, but then one of the buttons started getting stuck, so instead of advancing one page, it started repeated advancing page after page.  After that happened a few times, I just started using the touch screen, and I haven't looked back.

                                           

                                          I really hate the white color, I just do.  I wouldn't even consider the HD model because it only came in white. Someone said this new Glowlight looks like a toy, that was my first impression as well.  I guess I'll have to see it in person to make sure.

                                           

                                          Someone in this thread mentioned that we need a couple of choices of e-ink readers, low end, and higher-end, and I really agree with that.  I would be one of the higher-end buyers, spend a bit more money on the reader and get a BIT larger screen, hires, a bit higher processor, and more memory with more room for some of my older sideloaded books that I like.  I know that e-ink pricing is very sensitive--if the price becomes too high, not enough people will buy them....how many Kobo Aura HDs have really been sold at $179?

                                           

                                          I was really looking forward to this unveiling, and I do feel disappointed, but there is a chance I still might purchase it if the screen clarity & lighting is very good, as this is the main reason to have a new e-ink device.

                                           

                                            • The NOOK in the middle
                                              bobstro

                                              mhodgin wrote:

                                              [...]  I would be one of the higher-end buyers, spend a bit more money on the reader and get a BIT larger screen, hires, a bit higher processor, and more memory with more room for some of my older sideloaded books that I like.

                                               

                                              What I find perplexing is that the new unit could be that high-end unit if only they'd provided more storage, or made it easy to add storage. They hit most of my hot buttons for a higher-end device as well, though I'd like a larger screen. With the NST still in the lineup, they're in the odd position of having a lower-end device with a fundamental feature (expandable storage) that the high-end device lacks.

                                               

                                              I know that e-ink pricing is very sensitive--if the price becomes too high, not enough people will buy them....how many Kobo Aura HDs have really been sold at $179?

                                               

                                              I think enough that they decided to make a limited edition into a full-time product and enhanced other devices accordingly. Kobo does not seem to be racing to the bottom in terms of pricing, at least not on their upper-end devices. While not a Kobo-authorized procedure, the internal storage on Kobos can also be expanded easily, so they're benefiting from outside developer/hacker efforts as well.

                                               

                                              I was really looking forward to this unveiling, and I do feel disappointed, but there is a chance I still might purchase it if the screen clarity & lighting is very good, as this is the main reason to have a new e-ink device.

                                               

                                              It does sound like they got those features right, so long as you like the 6 inch screen size.

                                               

                                                • Re: The NOOK in the middle
                                                  laurieb52

                                                  Mercury,

                                                   

                                                  What about the shelving?

                                                    • Re: The NOOK in the middle
                                                      MacMcK1957

                                                      I've run into problems with certain books having font or margin settings that the NST could not override.  The margins are especially annoying, because I hate to see all that wasted real estate on the page forcing me to turn the page twice as often. (Ran into this with Stand on Zanzibar, an extra half-inch margin I could not remove) The entire Gideon Oliver mystery series is set into a font that cannot be enlarged enough to be readable for my visually impaired mother.

                                                       

                                                      Nook for PC and Nook for iPad had no problem overriding these settings but the NST could not.  I'd be curious to know if the new one can.

                                                       

                                                      I'd also like to know if they fixed the shelving. 

                                                      • Re: The NOOK in the middle
                                                        Omnigeek

                                                        In contrast to the modders, I prefer the Android 2.1 base because it means they don't do the goofy new "media drive" interface that screws up managing the device library with Calibre (I still can't manage my HD with Calibre the way I do my NST).

                                                         

                                                        I don't mind the white color as much as some and losing the physical page turn buttons annoys me but the real deal killer for me is loss of the SD slot.  Sorry, I sideload quite a bit and that's just not going to cut it.

                                                         

                                                        Guess I'm just due for disappointment (and no new Nook) this year.

                                                          • Re: The NOOK in the middle
                                                            roustabout

                                                            Omnigeek writes "I still can't manage my HD with Calibre the way I do my NST"

                                                             

                                                            Have you checked out Calibre Companion in the Play market?  If I understand correctly, it's written by people who either are or are tied to the Calibre devs. 

                                                             

                                                            when I was using the HD+ CC was working very well for me, it was as if I was managing a properly connected android device. 

                                                             

                                                            MTP is a disaster, agreed. 

                                                              • Re: The NOOK in the middle
                                                                Omnigeek

                                                                roustabout wrote:

                                                                Omnigeek writes "I still can't manage my HD with Calibre the way I do my NST"

                                                                 

                                                                Have you checked out Calibre Companion in the Play market?  If I understand correctly, it's written by people who either are or are tied to the Calibre devs. 

                                                                 

                                                                when I was using the HD+ CC was working very well for me, it was as if I was managing a properly connected android device. 

                                                                 

                                                                MTP is a disaster, agreed. 


                                                                Yes I have, I still don't like it as much as direct connection the NC, NT and NST all have/had.

                                                                  • Re: The NOOK in the middle
                                                                    TXAnnie
                                                                    I just bought my new nook and have to say I love it! Yes, it doesn't have everything to make everyone and their brother happy but it is great. I am a true nook fan and still have my original nook which has been my only nook hardware purchase. I also love it, but it is full and I know it will not last forever. I hate to give it up, but oh my. The new nook is so very, very light by comparison. Also I remember the original nook was a pain to set up (at least to me at the time). I charged my new one but was afraid to tackle setting it up and learning a new "system" as I am brain dead from a tough day at work. I was anxious and couldn't wait til I had a full functioning brain, and it was so easy to get it up and reading. I basically found book I was reading, found "go to" function, and set font. I love it. It is a beautiful, easy to use, very light weight ereader with a glowlight you can use or not use. It is easy to read and holds a lot of books with an easy to use library of book covers. It's not my iPad, my camera, my anything but an ereader--just what I wanted!
                                                          • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
                                                            rbrenart

                                                            Better light = I buy

                                                             

                                                            That was all I needed, the upgraded screen looks like a bonus. The white bezel a slight negative. Everything else is completely meaningless to me. Although I get why they may have been important to other people.

                                                             

                                                            So, that said... I'm really curious about two things I've seen in some reviews, and am reading here.

                                                             

                                                            1) They should've gone with a newer version of android. Why? It's a bespoke application, who cares if they wrote it on PalmOS? If you're going to mod it you're probably going to root and install your own version anyway. 

                                                             

                                                            2) Processor is too slow. What are you talking about? I have the NST (not glow), and I can honestly say I've never thought the processor was holding me back. What do you need the additional horsepower for? (and would you be willing to trade battery life for it?)

                                                             

                                                            I'm not trying to say any one's opinions are invalid, but as a gadget person I'm genuinelly curious where the desire for these two features comes from. 

                                                              • Android OS versions and processor speeds
                                                                bobstro
                                                                rbrenart wrote:
                                                                [...] So, that said... I'm really curious about two things I've seen in some reviews, and am reading here.

                                                                 

                                                                1) They should've gone with a newer version of android. Why? It's a bespoke application, who cares if they wrote it on PalmOS? If you're going to mod it you're probably going to root and install your own version anyway. 

                                                                 

                                                                I don't think developers are necessarily hoping for the latest version of Android, but a more current version (e.g. 2.3 Gingerbread) would open up a slew of options that simply aren't available on the older 2.1 Eclair they've used. There are a lot of handy features and programs that simply don't work on 2.1.

                                                                 

                                                                If you root, you still have to use whatever OS is there. There aren't the numerous OS variations for the NST/NSTG as for the color NOOKs (e.g. CyanogenMod) because the screen drivers are not available. All existing NST/G mods are still based on Android 2.1.

                                                                 

                                                                You're right that this isn't something B&N should necessarily know or care about, other than perhaps realizing that the developer community can provide a lot of free advanced development and debugging work if you encourage them. I do wonder if B&N's developers wish they had a more current OS to work on, as each Android release provides more capabilities.

                                                                 

                                                                2) Processor is too slow. What are you talking about? I have the NST (not glow), and I can honestly say I've never thought the processor was holding me back. What do you need the additional horsepower for? (and would you be willing to trade battery life for it?)

                                                                 

                                                                It can never be too fast! It would be useful for allowing background apps (e.g. file sync, time update) to run without adversely affecting responsiveness. You'll notice this when a device first wakes up for use if a lot of processes kick off.
                                                                A faster processor doesn't necessarily equate to poorer battery life. During operation, the actual operating speed of the processor at any given moment is controlled by a "governor" that steps speeds up and down depending on current load. It's nice to have the option to tune for snappy performance, better battery life or something in between. One common tweak is to have the CPU run faster when the device is in use (screen on), but slow down well below stock when no (screen off). I think it's safe to say that battery and performance tuning is an obsession with many Android developers and modders.
                                                                  • Re: Android OS versions and processor speeds
                                                                    flyingtoastr

                                                                    I can say that even using a "slow" processor the NGL responds much faster than my old NST. Software optimization ftw.

                                                                      • Re: Android OS versions and processor speeds
                                                                        laurieb52

                                                                        The user manual is posted. Looks like no difference in shelving....

                                                                            However, the number of pages to the end of the chapter is there, and the number of books on a shelf remains, contrary to the last updates on the HD.

                                                                         

                                                                            You can also add your google contacts for sharing thoughts and notes about ebooks. It also says you can search by subject; I'm not sure, but I don't think the last version did.

                                                                        • Re: Android OS versions and processor speeds
                                                                          bobstro
                                                                          flyingtoastr wrote:

                                                                          I can say that even using a "slow" processor the NGL responds much faster than my old NST. Software optimization ftw.

                                                                           

                                                                          The NST was 800 MHz according to most everything I've read. In any case, I don't think the new processor is any slower. I do wonder about the veracity of the leaked data sheet... unless the "new" NST is being slowed down (yikes).

                                                                           

                                                                          I suspect improved display technology gets the credit for perceptible performance increases, as 800 MHz processors have powered much bigger devices for years. The old eInk displays were notoriously slow.

                                                                            • Re: Android OS versions and processor speeds
                                                                              flyingtoastr

                                                                              No, it's legimate load speeds. The Way of Kings takes about 4 seconds to load on my NST versus less than 2 on my NGL. Boot speed is also a little faster, though I didn't bother timing it exactly.

                                                                              • Re: Android OS versions and processor speeds
                                                                                Byteguy

                                                                                No power button and "always on" (per the BN website)

                                                                                 

                                                                                Hmm... I wonder how long before someone gets on a plane and freaks out (or gets in trouble) because they can't "turn it off"

                                                                                 

                                                                                Don't get me wrong, I know the current rules are stupid.  I never "turn off" my NST when I fly but I make sure it's sleeping and the wi-fi is off.

                                                                                • Re: Android OS versions and processor speeds
                                                                                  Wulfraed

                                                                                  bobstro wrote:

                                                                                  The NST was 800 MHz according to most everything I've read. In any case, I don't think the new processor is any slower. I do wonder about the veracity of the leaked data sheet... unless the "new" NST is being slowed down (yikes).

                                                                                   


                                                                                   

                                                                                  You want "slowed down"?

                                                                                   

                                                                                  Buy an HP 50g calculator.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  This runs a (~250MHz)  ARM processor at 80MHz for battery life. On top of this ARM processor is an EMULATOR for the HP SATURN processor (Used in much older calculator) which is running the INTERPRETER for user level RPL.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  My 50g actually responds to keystrokes slower than my 49sx! (yet has most of the same functionality)

                                                                                   

                                                                                   

                                                                              • Re: Android OS versions and processor speeds
                                                                                rbrenart

                                                                                I don't think developers are necessarily hoping for the latest version of Android, but a more current version (e.g. 2.3 Gingerbread) would open up a slew of options that simply aren't available on the older 2.1 Eclair they've used. There are a lot of handy features and programs that simply don't work on 2.1.

                                                                                 

                                                                                Any of those relevant to an e-reader? I take your point, as a hackers device it would make things easier to have a more recent jumping off point - but as a consumer device, I find these complaints baseless.

                                                                                 

                                                                                It can never be too fast! It would be useful for allowing background apps (e.g. file sync, time update) to run without adversely affecting responsiveness. You'll notice this when a device first wakes up for use if a lot of processes kick off.

                                                                                 

                                                                                Price, performance, battery life... pick two.

                                                                                 

                                                                                Anyway, I stand by my claim that worrying about the MHz of the chip in a dedicated e-reader, much like worrying about the version of Android means you're probably not the target consumer.

                                                                                  • Re: Android OS versions and processor speeds
                                                                                    laurieb52

                                                                                    There's no new feature related to powering up, it works exactly the same in that respect as the NST &NSTG.

                                                                                    • Re: Android OS versions and processor speeds
                                                                                      bobstro

                                                                                      brenart wrote:
                                                                                      Any of those relevant to an e-reader? I take your point, as a hackers device it would make things easier to have a more recent jumping off point - but as a consumer device, I find these complaints baseless.

                                                                                      Just on the jump from Android 2.1 to 2.2, there were some significant improvements that would apply to any device:

                                                                                      Dalvik Performance Boost: 2x-5x performance speedup for CPU-heavy code over Android 2.1 with Dalvik JIT. [...]

                                                                                      Kernel Memory Management Boost: Improved memory reclaim by up to 20x, which results in faster app switching and smoother performance on memory-constrained devices.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      Price, performance, battery life... pick two.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      While that was the case in the past, it's not with today's mobile technologies. Many faster newer processors use less power over the life of a battery charge than older slower processors. In many cases, they are actually slower most of the time, but can speed up for interactive use.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      Anyway, I stand by my claim that worrying about the MHz of the chip in a dedicated e-reader, much like worrying about the version of Android means you're probably not the target consumer.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      Yet it's mentioned in nearly every review. Somebody out there obviously cares.

                                                                                       

                                                                                        • Re: Android OS versions and processor speeds
                                                                                          RHWright

                                                                                          >Yawn<

                                                                                           

                                                                                          This has no significant improvements over the NST for me.

                                                                                           

                                                                                          Glow light? meh

                                                                                          No SD card? por quoi?

                                                                                          Only in white?

                                                                                           

                                                                                          At least the NST is still available. I may just pick up one as a back-up. Just in case.

                                                                                           

                                                                                          Now if we can just get a sowtware update for the NST out of them that addresses the known issues and requests for improvement ...

                                                                                           

                                                                              • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
                                                                                bklvr896

                                                                                I'm going to go look at it after I get off work.  I've been reading on my HD, but, the battery life drives me nuts, seems like I'm always in the middle of a book and half to go charge it.

                                                                                 

                                                                                As far as the space, here's my experience.  I have quite a number of friends/relatives and coworkers who have some type of eReader.  In talking to them, they all seem to read books and then archive them off the device, most of them have said they don't like having a lot of books on the device and they don't care about shelving.

                                                                                 

                                                                                So maybe BN is responding to the what the market wants, which may not necessarily be what folks who post on message boards want.  One would expect they did some type of market research when developing the device, and maybe the found out that general users don't care about SD cards, don't do a lot of sideloading, and don't want or need to have several thousand books on their device  On the other hand, maybe they didn't do any research and made these changes all based on cost.

                                                                                 

                                                                                My point would be, that what you read here and what we, the "power users" feel is necessary, may not be what the "regular" users want.

                                                                                 

                                                                                Even my wants and needs have changed since I got my first N1E.  The extra storage is no longer an issue for me, I don't do much sideloading and I'm archiving more books on the device these days.

                                                                                 

                                                                                I do, however, wish they had improved the shelving.  But, shelving or organizing doesn't seem to be a priority with any of the retailers from what I've seen.

                                                                                  • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
                                                                                    Larryb52

                                                                                    I stopped at my BN afterwork and was impressed with the new reader, very dark text even with the light and the light was very even and a big improvement ove the last version. Text was sharp and clear and all the fonts looked more than good and you could see the HD improvement. I put my name on the list as they had sold out very nice addition to the nook family IMO and tho no mem slot that is not a biggie for me and there is still plenty of room on there to add the few titles I have converted from PDF, I don't have one so no idea what new menu changes they may have added but its nice just to see a new device from BN...

                                                                                  • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
                                                                                    bklvr896

                                                                                    I picked up my new Glowlight this evening, got my 10% member discount and when I got home, there was an email with a $5 credit to buy books, for purchasing the Nook.  Not a bad deal.

                                                                                     

                                                                                    I saw, as others have reported, they only have the snap on cover.  Since the store could only find gray, gray and more gray covers, I opted to wait.  I'll either see what else comes out, or order it from the website in something other than gray.

                                                                                     

                                                                                     

                                                                                      • Re: New NOOK Glowlight

                                                                                        No cover for me. I've never been big on them as they just add more weight/bulk and often times detract from the device's appearance. I simply don't see the need on these small Ereaders as they are relatively well made and unless you really beat up your Nook, it isn't likely to get damaged all that easily even if you throw it in a purse or briefcase.  My NGL is naked and I like it that way.

                                                                                      • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
                                                                                        MLR3

                                                                                        I am a NOOK lover, all the way back to the first edition 3G.  My favorite Nook, though, is the NSTG, because I travel so much, I always end up reading in the dark in the car or at night in bed.  I have never had any of the problems with the light or the screen that others have complained of.  So, a new glowlight is exciting to me. 

                                                                                         

                                                                                        I don't mind much about the micro SD, because I never end up using the SD card I have in mine (although I don't get why they would remove this when many people do use it). 

                                                                                         

                                                                                        So, I was all ready to order this new Nook until I read that there are no side buttons.  That is it for me.  It really is. I use the buttons non-stop, and I hate touching the screen.  I have the Nook Tablet, but use it for other things, not reading, because it doesn't have the buttons.    I am sure, as others have said, that I "could" get used to it, but why?  Does it really cost that much for the company to risk upsetting very loyal readers and losing a potential sale?  I mean, I paid the $250 for the First Edition back when, I would rather pay a little more and have all of the perks.  It is like we're going backwards.  I am just going to try to hold out on this version as long as possible.  Maybe the next version will bring back the buttons.:smileysad:

                                                                                          • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
                                                                                            Mercury_Glitch

                                                                                            For the record everyone who gets a new device (not just the NGL, a NST, NSTG, Nook HD, Nook HD+ all of them, just has to be new) will get that 5$ gift.  It does need to be used fairly quickly though so please do try and use it.  I do not think anything can be done once it expires.

                                                                                              • Re: New NOOK Glowlight
                                                                                                bklvr896

                                                                                                Mercury_Glitch wrote:

                                                                                                For the record everyone who gets a new device (not just the NGL, a NST, NSTG, Nook HD, Nook HD+ all of them, just has to be new) will get that 5$ gift.  It does need to be used fairly quickly though so please do try and use it.  I do not think anything can be done once it expires.


                                                                                                If you have other gift cards on your account, you should remove them before purchasing a book, so it uses this one first.  Of course, make sure you still have the gift card so you can add it back after you use up the credit.   It has a very short expiration date, I think mine was November 5.

                                                                                            • What's in a name?
                                                                                              DeanGibson

                                                                                              flyingtoastr wrote:

                                                                                              Let's get this out of the way first:

                                                                                               

                                                                                              1. There are no page turn buttons
                                                                                              2. There is no SD card slot

                                                                                               

                                                                                              Grab yer pitchforks and torches and get it out of your system.

                                                                                               

                                                                                              ...


                                                                                              Which means that rooting will be more difficult (which no doubt pleases you).

                                                                                               

                                                                                              Oh wait;  there seems to be almost no interest in rootingthis device;  there is only one thread that I could find discussing this device, and most of it was not discussing rooting.

                                                                                               

                                                                                              I wonder why that is??? :smileywink:

                                                                                               

                                                                                              As to why I refer to this device as "this device" :  I don't know what to call it.  The name "Nook Simple Touch with Glowlight" was so ridiculously long, that many people simply referred to it as the "Nook Glowlight" or even the "Nook Glow".

                                                                                               

                                                                                              So, in a stunning example of marketing confusion, this device is named the "Nook Glowlight".  I'm sure this helps B&N customer support figure out which device a customer has, without asking additional questions.