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      • 135. Re: Ebook Prices

         


        sub_rosa wrote:

        B&N and Amazon charge the same for NYT bestsellers.  That's not the issue.  They are selling them for $9.99 and losing money on every sale.

         

        The problem is that on the regular catalog books - outside the bestseller list - Amazon maintains a larger catalog at consistently lower prices.  Amazon is clearly the better company for eBooks right now.  If B&N cannot correct this imbalance, I think they will lose a lot of customers and eventually have no choice but to discontinue their eBook program.

         

        I have about a half dozen books on my Nook right now.  I'll read all of them before I buy anything new.  And if it looks like B&N still hasn't fixed its pricing issues, then I'll sell my Nook on eBay and buy a Kindle.  Over time, I'll save enough money to justify whatever loss I take on my Nook sale.

         

        There's a really great independent bookstore here in my area that sells very nice, clean used books.  The issues with eBook pricing is just too unsettled right now.

         


         

         

        While Amazon may be a better eBook retailer, the Kindle as an eReading device is horribly restrictive. The nook allows books to be loaded from so many other places, in so many other formats, supporting more DRM schemes that you can bypass Barnes & Nobles bookstore entirely and have a robust library on your nook.

         

        The Kindle is more restrictive, so users are more at the mercy of Amazon's pricing. Fortunately it's good, but they're more reliant that it remains so. At least nook users can flock away from Barnes & Noble as the prices get bad and find competitive prices with other sites or load free books from a variety of sources.

         

        I have over 50 eBooks on my nook, and I've only purchased 3 through Barnes & Noble, and not one of them cost more than $5.

        • 136. Re: Ebook Prices

          By the way, for people upset with Barnes & Nobles increase in prices, there are currently 951,747 FREE eBooks:

           

          http://books.barnesandnoble.com/search/results.aspx?SRT=R&WRD=0.00&STORE=EBOOK&BOX=0.00&SZE=100

           

          Grab some free stuff by some lesser known authors.

          • 137. Re: Ebook Prices

            It appears that a moderator or some other B&N techno-type has consolidated several threads about B&N's higher eBook prices.  But after scrolling through 19 pages, I didn't find one message from a moderator or anyone from B&N attempting to address the concerns being raised.

             

            This forum provides a great opportunity for B&N to communicate with its customers - many who invested in the Nook on blind faith alone.

             

            So what's the story B&N?  We deserve better.

             

            • 138. Re: Ebook Prices

               


              alangerow wrote:

               

              The Kindle is more restrictive, so users are more at the mercy of Amazon's pricing. Fortunately it's good, but they're more reliant that it remains so. At least nook users can flock away from Barnes & Noble as the prices get bad and find competitive prices with other sites or load free books from a variety of sources.


               

              Again, this is a huge misconception.  Kindle can read a variety of sources so owners are not limited to Amazon as so many seem to think.  They can use other sources just like the nook such as Fictionwise, WPL, and Gutenberg.  In addition, they have horizontal viewing which can be a huge plus for viewing PDF depending on the file.  A Kindle can even download direclty from other sources whereas the nook must be sideloaded.

               

              • 139. Re: Ebook Prices
                MusicmanGG

                I just noticed that Shutter Island's price was dropped to $4.39....

                 

                • 140. Re: Wow, my eBook wish list just became a lot more expensive!

                  Toner wrote "I know this is obvious to most but it seems to have missed you."

                   

                   

                  If it was obvious to most how did you miss the point?

                   

                  My regretting buying the Nook wasn't directed toward B&N although the way they handled the initial shipments was poorly managed and the initial software problems have been frustrating to deal with.

                  While I have several reasons to regret buying the Nook, the primary reason relative to the price of eBooks is: The reduced cost of eBooks $10 vs. $20+ seemed to justify buying a device that would pay for itself after the purchase of 20 to 30 books.  (I've had the device since about 12/17 and have purchased 12 books already.)

                   

                  I guess what was obvious to me before buying the Nook is no longer valid.  Whether it's B&N or the Publishers is irrelevant.  It's one more reason to regret buying the Nook.

                  • 141. Re: Ebook Prices

                     


                    Alley415 wrote:

                     


                    alangerow wrote:

                     

                    The Kindle is more restrictive, so users are more at the mercy of Amazon's pricing. Fortunately it's good, but they're more reliant that it remains so. At least nook users can flock away from Barnes & Noble as the prices get bad and find competitive prices with other sites or load free books from a variety of sources.


                     

                    Again, this is a huge misconception.  Kindle can read a variety of sources so owners are not limited to Amazon as so many seem to think.  They can use other sources just like the nook such as Fictionwise, WPL, and Gutenberg.  In addition, they have horizontal viewing which can be a huge plus for viewing PDF depending on the file.  A Kindle can even download direclty from other sources whereas the nook must be sideloaded.

                     


                     

                     

                    It is my understanding the Kindle does not support Adobe DRM, which is the DRM many other eBook retailers as well as libraries use for their DRM. The Kindle may be able to load from DRM-free sources, but from what I've read it is not able to load eBooks from many sources that the nook can. The sources you listed all provide open DRM-free files. Can the Kindle load eBooks from the Overdrive library lending system?

                    • 142. Re: new higher prices on ebooks!!

                      I agree with all the posters.  I bought the Nook as the sales person in the store kept promoting the prices of the books-yet here I am, just 3 weeks later with much higher prices then I was lead to believe.

                       

                      I almost feel that I have been taken advantage of.

                       

                      I have a B&N Readers card, yet it can't be used for Nook accessories.  $125 for a COVER?  

                       

                       

                      • 143. Re: new higher prices on ebooks!!

                        I really like my Nook but I'm afraid, with the increased prices of books, that it will go the way of the old Betamax VCR's.

                         

                        What a way to reward those of us early purchasers.  We've basically beta tested the device, lived through the glitches and now...just as things are going well...they raise the prices on e-books.

                         

                        How is that going to look to new Nook purchasers especially now that BN is saying you can buy a Nook in-store.

                         

                         

                        • 144. Re: Ebook Prices

                          Barnes & Noble, please reconsider your recent price increases. At $9.99 or less, I will be happy to purchase eBooks, but I will not be able to afford my reading habit if eBooks are over $15 a pop! In January, I purchased Her Fearful Symmetry for $5.79. It is now $17.54. Yikes! What is going on? Your own "Don't Miss" list has 17 books that are over 10 dollars and only 4 that are not. I bought my nook under the impression that your prices would be competitive. I sincerely hope you live up to your end of the bargain.

                          • 145. Re: Wow, my eBook wish list just became a lot more expensive!

                             


                            ScrappersNook wrote:

                            I would never return my Nook over jacked up ebook prices...there are just too many other sources to get a book from, including the library....why cut off your nose to spite your face?    For myself, I'll just keep my dollars, keep my Nook and continue watching for the free offers, and making good use of my library card.  Can't even imagaine giving up my Nook now.....after only a month and a half, and not one single solitary problem...I love my Nook.  It goes where I go.  The old saying is...'What goes up must come down' - it's just a matter of time.


                             

                            As the prices rise, the selections at libraries will slow in size increases.  Libraries are bound to their budgets and if they have to pay 2 and 3 times more for a book than they budgeted for it either they won't purchase it or they will cut purchases somewhere else.  In addition, most library budgets are classified by source so the ebooks will suffer from their own price increases. 

                             

                            • 146. Re: new higher prices on eBooks!!

                              I have been reading over the responses to the higher prices for a few days and I have been thinking about the situation and I have come to some conclusions.

                               

                              I bought my nook because I am a book buyer, a book reader, and I simply just spend too much money on books and have too many books in my house.  I wanted to have an ereader with an open format (unlike the kindle), I wanted to save money on books (which I thought I would be doing since I wouldn't be buying new release hardbacks), and I wanted to stop filling my house with so many books.  I want to be clear on one major point:  I did not buy an ereader to fill it up with free eBooks that I have no desire to ever read. 

                               

                              In many responses to the eBook pricing debacle, people suggest the option of the free eBooks on Barnes & Noble and other sites.  I looked at these free books at length.  I don't want to read these books.  I did not get an ereader to read books I read in high school English class, Harlequin romances, or other books that I am just simply not interested in. I got the nook to read books that I would have been reading in paper format, which I would have bought.  And now the eBook is more expensive than the paper format in many cases.  I am highly irritated by this.

                               

                              Another suggestion has been to use Overdrive at the library.  I live in a small town.  Our library does not offer this service.  Also, I want to own books rather than borrow books. I do not want a time constraint when reading, and many other people do not either.  I did not get a nook as a library borrowing tool.  I am just not a library user.  I am a book buyer.  And I got an ereader partially to save some money on books. And now the prices have gone way up.  I am irritated by this.

                               

                              So basically, I just want to vent my frustration and also say that the free eBooks are just not a good substitute for a solution to this problem. And neither is the library.

                               

                              I have been an extremely loyal Barnes & Noble customer for many years and have spent thousands of dollars both in the stores and online.  I feel so hoodwinked and duped by this whole nook mess. I can't help but love my little gadget, but I am starting to seriously mistrust the company who made it.

                               

                               

                               

                               

                              • 147. Re: Ebook Prices

                                This is getting ridiculous.  Her Fearful Symmetryby Audrey Niffenegger was $5.79 (like you mentioned), last week it went up to $14.03, now $17.54. What's the deal?!? I WILL NOT buys books at this price. Now Kobo has also gone up on it too. Last week it was still $5.79 now it's $16.19. This must be fueled by the publishers to some extent. Just sucks that BN can't make some sort of announcement or something. At least Kindle owners know Amazon is fighting for them cuz it's all over the web. BN just rolls over to them & doesn't tell it's customer's anything. :smileymad:

                                • 148. Re: ebook price increase--they've lost their minds

                                  If you will take a *deep* breath and really look at the price problem, you will see that the problem started not with BN. The most recent increase in prices is directly caused by Apple starting its iBookstore and setting prices via the agency model. Amazon's ebook prices have been artificially low so that they could sell more Kindles. Often Amazon was selling at a loss. They have used a reverse 'Gillette strategy' of charging more for the reader and less for the books. Apple seems to be trying to run Amazon out of the business. I don't believe Apple enjoys a competitive marketplace. They seem to want to control any market they are in. If you want to rant, Apple and the various publishers would be a very good target. Amazon tried for a *very* short time to resist the publisher price change. The caved in after a day or so, as I remember it. They could be included in the rants. Amazon is so large as an ebook seller that once they caved in the rest had little choice.

                                   

                                  We need to place the blame when it belongs. As the publishers negotiate new contracts with all of the sellers, we will probably see all prices increase.

                                   

                                  I don't support the increased prices. I don't understand why prices for ebooks should be so high other than greed on the publishers part. They are going to ruin the ebook business if they are not careful.

                                   

                                  The length of this tread does bring to mind an old quote about beating a dead horse though. 

                                   

                                  The main thing though is to take that deep breath and relax. This is not the only area the the consumer is drawing the short straw. (And I'm not talking about the problems with the nook when is mention a short straw. I have been very happy with mine.)

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