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      • 15. Re: Nook color PDF problem

        It would be great if we could get an update on this, Jeffrey.

        Could you share any plans that are on the horizon?

         

        Might I suggest a B&N blessed side-loaded PDF viewer that does not have this same issue? (a workaround)

         

        To everyone else, if you have a good technical constitution it is possible to put the Android market place on your NookColor, and with that have access to other PDF viewers. Here is a review of what I'm talking about: Nook Color Review.

         

        I'd do this myself, but I returned my Nookcolor. I'm watching this thread though as I would most likely buy the Nookcolor again once this issue has been resolved.

        -zombieprocess

         

         

        • 16. Re: Nook color PDF problem

          Well, a few thoughts:

           

          First of all, the issue MIGHT be that part or all of the PDF you are trying to view is copyright protected. If you are downloading or purchasing from 3rd party sites that may be the issue. B&N seems to be pretty strict about copyright infringement. This is just a guess on my part.....

           

          Secondly, to those with issues with monitoring of this site.....you do realize it's the holidays? And to RonzNook and others with issues of the in store staff, you do realize these are booksellers, not tech guys, right?

          • 17. Re: Nook color PDF problem

            I am pretty sure that it is not all a copy-write problem.  I know for a fact that my legal documents do not fall into that category.  Copy protection could be a contributing factor in some cases though.

             

            As far as the holiday support is concerned though, this thread is over a month old.  A moderator (nook_engineer) picked up the case almost immediately but has not provided any new information or updates since.

            • 18. Re: Nook color PDF problem

              I have a problem too with online books like...

              http://www.archive.org/download/amongmalaypirate00hent/amongmalaypirate00hent.pdf

               

              Just get the BIG RED X.

               

              The sales person at BN (Amy) said I should have no problem with PDF scanned books.

              I specifically asked since this was going to be a gift for my son.

              Should the reader go back or will this get fixed via an update. Thanks.

              • 19. Re: Nook color PDF problem

                I'm a yet another experiencing the same issue.  Every OCR/PDF file that I open on the Nook Color renders as red X's.

                 

                I've attempted to use the CutePDF work-around, with only limited success.  CutePDF works for some of the OCR/PDFs, but with others it seems to lock up and doesn't ultimately create the outputted PDF.

                 

                One OCR/PDF that didn't work, for example, was roughly 900 pages long.  CutePDF processed it to 43% and then froze.  The file is not corrupted, though... it opens just fine on Adobe Reader.

                 

                This whole issue is something of let-down for me.  I generally prefer printed books, but recently I've found that Google Books offers a wealth of scanned historical books for free download.  As a researcher, these have been very helpful to me, so my goal with the Nook Color was to have an e-book reader on which I could keep/read a library of PDFs of historical books that I download from Google Books.  These books were all published pre-1900 and every one of them is an OCR/PDF.

                 

                Thus, this one little flaw in the PDF reading software on the Nook Color has really crippled its usefulness to me.  Since it was advertised to be able to read PDFs, I really never thought this would be an issue.

                 

                Also, it's not as if OCR/PDFs are all that uncommon.  For historical books, they are practically the standard, since they allow readers to see the original, scanned printed page and yet still let you search the document text using an invisible "plain text" layer.  OCR/PDFs are very useful... it's really a shame they aren't supported on the Nook Color.

                 

                Literally everything else about the unit is very impressive.  I just really hope that the next update remedies this issue.

                • 20. Re: Nook color PDF problem

                   


                  Atomant wrote:

                  I have a problem too with online books like...

                  http://www.archive.org/download/amongmalaypirate00hent/amongmalaypirate00hent.pdf

                   

                  Just get the BIG RED X.

                   

                  The sales person at BN (Amy) said I should have no problem with PDF scanned books.

                  I specifically asked since this was going to be a gift for my son.

                  Should the reader go back or will this get fixed via an update. Thanks.


                   

                  You do realize that that same title is available at that same site as an epub, right?

                   

                   

                  Anyway, I downloaded that pdf and got the "red x" too.  I notice that it's a fairly large pdf at almost 15 MB...easily 30 times the size of the epub version.  Since that's the only pdf I've come across that will not display in the NC, I wonder if it's an issue with its display memory (or more accurately, the amount of display memory)?

                   

                   

                   

                   

                  • 21. Re: Nook color PDF problem

                    In my observation, PDF's that were scanned have problems... those that were created by an app (like Word), usually do not.

                    • 22. Re: Nook color PDF problem

                      PDFs vary enormously. The standard from Adobe is extremely flexible, in part, because it wasn't developed for reading, but for printing. What mattered is whether it LOOKED correct so it would be printed correctly, not whether it could be searched, zoomed, reflowed, bookmarked, annotated, etc.

                       

                      All the features that enable a PDF to be used effectively for reading has been added more recently on top of a then-existing standard. It is entirely the responsibility of whoever is making the PDF and the toolset being used how well the PDF can be used for reading.

                       

                      This puts an enormous burden on the reading software to "creatively" interpret what is in the PDF file, and explains why different apps can vary so much.

                      • 23. Re: Nook color PDF problem

                        I invested in the NookColor primarily to be able to read ginormous textbooks which are meticulously bookmarked in PDF format. I am having the same problem with the red X's and what I've noticed is - color pages seem to render without a problem. Most text/B&W pages come up as the red X, but not consistently.

                         

                        The books that are entirely in color seem to display fine. But books with both color and B&W pages will show most color pages perfectly, but display the red X for B&W pages as well as some of the color pages. What's puzzling is, I have a couple of books that are B&W that are fine, and then a few others that are completely red-X'd out. I don't know how to technically compare the pages, but I'm guessing it is due to the "OCR vs image" page reason.

                         

                        I was really disappointed that you couldn't do a search on the PDF documents or be able to use the bookmarks, which are critical with the size of PDFs I have. I echo the complaint that it's annoying when the file goes back to page zero everytime I open it, esp when I just spent minutes finding the page I wanted.

                         

                        I hope future software updates address the PDF functionality or otherwise give us access to more robust PDF readers thru the Android market when it opens.

                        • 24. Re: Nook color PDF problem

                          On a whim, I tried running a script I had made for submitting Google Books PDF files to Lulu.com for printing. It seems to make the PDF files work on the Nook Color as well. The script simply runs ghostscript on the file with some options:

                           

                          gs -dSAFER -dNOPLATFONTS -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sPAPERSIZE=letter -dCompatibilityLevel=1.3 -dPDFSETTINGS=/printer -dMaxSubsetPct=100 -dSubsetFonts=true -dEmbedAllFonts=true -sOutputFile=new_file.pdf -f old_file.pdf

                          • 25. Re: Nook color PDF problem

                            tsinoy,

                             

                            I agree. I would really like to have the ability to have bookmarks into PDF files. I purchased my Nook primarily to read old books from either books.google.com or archive.org. Most of the OCR'd books available from barnesandnoble.com are so full of mistakes that they are not worth reading. I would rather read the image-based PDF files. Bookmarks are essential.

                             

                            That said, this is a really nice device and very hard not to like even with these flaws. Hopefully B&N will resolve some of these issues in the coming months. It is a relatively new device and I expect to see a lot of improvements in the near future.

                            • 26. Re: Nook color PDF problem

                              PDF's on the NC kind of suck. The Kindle has a much better PDF viewer.  I have read that there is a VERY nice PDF reader in the Android app store for those that rooted.  But that does leave hope for us that NC may get better at PDF.

                               

                              Once thing that helped with images for me was running the PDF though calibre.  Though the performance was still questionable.

                               

                              Lets hope this gets better as I have soem resouce PDF's from work that would be handy to have on hand.

                               

                              • 27. Re: Nook color PDF problem

                                 


                                brianglass wrote:

                                On a whim, I tried running a script I had made for submitting Google Books PDF files to Lulu.com for printing. It seems to make the PDF files work on the Nook Color as well. The script simply runs ghostscript on the file with some options:

                                 

                                gs -dSAFER -dNOPLATFONTS -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sPAPERSIZE=letter -dCompatibilityLevel=1.3 -dPDFSETTINGS=/printer -dMaxSubsetPct=100 -dSubsetFonts=true -dEmbedAllFonts=true -sOutputFile=new_file.pdf -f old_file.pdf


                                Very cool.  Thanks for that.  I'll have to familiarize myself with this lulu.com thing of which you speak.   :smileyhappy:

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                • 28. Re: Nook color PDF problem

                                  I read all the posts. The problems looks like to happen, as you said, with "old" and reliable PDF files.  Consider that there are many PDF "levels" abbroad like 1, 2, 3, 4 and else. For Screen, for printing, for professional printing jobs. They are diferent from each other. When we use nice and small free programs like PrimoPdf and other inidicated here, they convert, whitout asking, for actual compliant PDF "level". So, if we are at level 4 or 5 and you have an old file coded as 1 or 2, may be it would not open. As other guy said, use a new program to "reconvert" the old file and things worked fine.

                                   

                                  We now have two simillar problems with convertion software. There has to have profiles not just for "tablet pdf" but for "mpg4 video file". We are using other profiles and things like mpg4 for iPad not works for Nook and vice-versa. We are at the very beggining of this technology and things are little messy, but they'll adjust.

                                   

                                  For my personal use i just copy no Nook Color big PDFs of one os my magazines with 48 to128 pages, generated by In Design or by Primo PDF and the visualization is perfect.

                                   

                                  Just one thing I can´t do is to make a cover for my PDFs...

                                  • 29. Re: Nook color PDF problem

                                    Just to clarify.  I created a pdf on our copier. One in color mode and one in b&w mode.  I then compiled them together. the pages done in color mode worked fine and the ones in B&W mode gave the red x.  Maybe that will help clear up some of the questions.  I will try and figure out how to convert them and see if i can see how to make them work.

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