11 Replies Latest reply on Sep 15, 2013 7:43 AM by JRScarborough

    Using Calibre to back up your nookbooks.

    compulsivereaderTX

      Did you know that you can download your nookbooks (and books from a few other sites as well) directly into Calibre? This function has been included for awhile, but I've not really played with it much until recently. There's a lot to learn about using calibre, I'm slowly getting around to them all. :smileyhappy:

       

      You can purchase your books within Calibre and download them into the calibre library. Once in your library, you can add them to your catalog if you create one, and/or use Calibre as your backup as well as having them in your library for easy reference!

       

      Here's how:

      First, I suggest you get the newest Calibre update and install it.

       

      Go to "Get Books" in the menu bar. Click on the bar on the right side of the icon, from the pull down menu, choose "stores", then choose "Barnes and Noble".

       

      A window will now pop up for the Barnes and Noble website. Within this window, you will have to sign in to BN each and every time you use it. Your password is not stored. I suggest you sign in before you do anything else.

       

      Once signed in, you can browse and purchase your nookbooks or go straight to your Nook library.

       

      Once in your library, you can now download any or all of your purchased books. Just click "download" for each book you want and your download will start. There's no magic pop up window to tell you it is happening, the books won't show up in your downloads folder. They go straight into your Calibre's library and are filed in the same manner as your other books.

       

      At the bottom left of Calibre, it will tell you when each title is finished downloading. This is usually the long number/letter name that is given to your books that you usually find in your nook app folder, but Calibre will pull the title and author out for you and display it in the main library. VERY NICE.

       

      Out of 80 books I downloaded today, one did not have an author listed once in Calibre, and another was displayed with it's generic name and unknown for author. Because I was downloading the books from the website, I was able to check back for what books weren't showing up, and made a notation on what books would need to be manually updated. Because the downloads are happening in the background, it's easy to think they aren't happening, but they are and they show up in the library as they are fnished downloading.

       

      This was a lot easier than importing them from Nook for PC. There was no guessing what those untitled ebooks might be. And I didn't have to wait forever for Nook for PC to open and download and then become workable with my very good size library. 

       

      Though Amazon is listed as a store, it does not work this way, but does open Amazon in your browser rather than within Calibre. Kobo works the same as BN as I've used it for Kobo as well, to directly download my books into Calibre. Those are the only stores I've tried. There are a few other stores listed though, you can give them a shot.

       

      I found this to be less stressful and more organized than just importing them and hoping for the best. I had more control over it, could pick and choose what I wanted downloaded as I did it.

       

      I like keeping my BN books within Calibre both as a backup and to keep track of what I've purchased from different places so I don't accidentally repurchase something. I also can keep up with series where different books in the series might have been purchased at different stores. They are all stored under the same author in Calibre and I keep the series information there for reference. I keep a copy of my Calibre folder on my PC and on a usb drive just in case I lose the PC. Also, I can take it from one computer to another and have access to my books. LOVE it!

       

      Hope you find this another useful way to get the most from your Calibre library!

       

       

        • Re: Using Calibre to back up your nookbooks.
          roustabout

          This is also workable for magazines, so you can keep your back issues offline.

           

          It is a big part of why I first bought a Simple Touch and why I've taken the time to set my NST and NSTG up so that the magazines download to storage I can see, in fact, because the NST formatted magazines are readable in standard epub readers, not just the BN magazine readers.

           

          Also, using the Amazon app, Calibre, and some of the excellent work by students of DRM, you can both archive Amazon books and convert them to epub format.

           

          My walkthrough on setting up the NST/G to store your books and magazines on the SD card (which you can see in Calibre) rather than in internal memory is at

           

          http://nookworks.blogspot.com/2012/05/fat-glowworm-using-your-sd-card-as.html

           

          and my walkthrough on using Calibre to manage DRM and format for all of your books, regardless of vendor, is at

           

          http://nookworks.blogspot.com/2011/09/information-security-and-digital-rights.html

          • Re: Using Calibre to back up your nookbooks.

            What do you do about the DRM? I tried to open a nook book once it was in my calibre library and it said that I couldn't open it because of the DRM.

              • Re: Using Calibre to back up your nookbooks.
                kamas716
                you can either get the plugin to remove the DRM (possibly illegal), or simply use Calibre to hold the files as a backup and use your Nook to read, or use the latest version of ADE to open them on your computer if you really want to read them on your PC/laptop.
                  • Re: Using Calibre to back up your nookbooks.
                    Hi, what is ADE? I have nook for Mac on my laptop but it is terrible and often doesn't work. I'm curious about backing up files on calibre. If something were to happen and I would need to access the backup files, can they be side loaded into a nook? Otherwise, what use is the backups if I don't want to access the software that removes the DRM? I've also been wondering what I would do with all the nook books if Barnes and noble were to go under or stop making the nook. Would I be unable to read them because of the DRM?
                      • Re: Using Calibre to back up your nookbooks.
                        kamas716

                        trixieq wrote:
                        Hi, what is ADE? I have nook for Mac on my laptop but it is terrible and often doesn't work. I'm curious about backing up files on calibre. If something were to happen and I would need to access the backup files, can they be side loaded into a nook? Otherwise, what use is the backups if I don't want to access the software that removes the DRM? I've also been wondering what I would do with all the nook books if Barnes and noble were to go under or stop making the nook. Would I be unable to read them because of the DRM?

                        ADE is Adobe Digital Editions.  It's a program for reading epub files with DRM and is needed to unlock the DRM from vendors like Kobo, Google and Sony, among others.  The latest version also reads B&N DRMed eBooks, though I haven't tried it yet. 

                        Your B&N DRMed eBooks that you have saved on your computer will open on your Nook device. Even if B&N were to go belly up tomorrow and take down its servers, all of your NookBooks would continue to work just as they do now.  Any of your NookBooks that you have saved on your computer/flashdrive/CD that you might need to sideload onto your Nook will still open because the encryption key isn't tied into any of the B&N servers but is a part of the eBook file you have saved.  You just need to know your Log In and CC# used to download them.

                         

                        Calibre is great as a library management tool, but won't itself read DRMed eBooks.  If you search for Apprentice Alf you can find plugins for Calibre which allow you to manipulate the files so Calibre (or any other eReader) can read them.  Without the plugins you can still manage your library and sideload content onto your Nook.

                         

                         

                          • Re: Using Calibre to back up your nookbooks.
                            Jafa

                            kamas 716 wrote:

                             

                            "Your B&N DRMed eBooks that you have saved on your computer will open on your Nook device. Even if B&N were to go belly up tomorrow and take down its servers, all of your NookBooks would continue to work just as they do now.  Any of your NookBooks that you have saved on your computer/flashdrive/CD that you might need to sideload onto your Nook will still open because the encryption key isn't tied into any of the B&N servers but is a part of the eBook file you have saved.  You just need to know your Log In and CC# used to download them"

                             

                             

                            I'm confused.  If BN disappeared tomorrow, how would you access them on Nook for PC when that requires logging in to the server, and how would you get access to your books once your Nook dies?  How would you sideload them to a future device if the DRM would not let you?  What is the best way to make sure I forever have access to my books, even if BN disappeared? 

                             

                            I am concerned because Calibre will not let me open most of my books, due to DRM.

                              • Re: Using Calibre to back up your nookbooks.
                                NookGardener

                                Dont wait until there's a problem. Start backing up your books now.

                                 

                                1) Download Nook for PC or Nook Study. When you're logged in to B&N, there's an option to download a copy of your books to your pc. (You can generally download a couple at a time.) 

                                2)Once thats done, you can pull the books into calibre to organize your library or add covers if you need them. (Some people just make a copy of their books in another directory if your not interested in using calibre/organizing.)  This way, the copy isnt tied to the B&N program.

                                 

                                There are other android reading programs that will allow you to use the B&N drm. (Mantano is one. There are a couple of others.) You just need to make a note on the cc number you've used to download. (If you change card numbers, you'll want the old number unless you want to redownload everything.)

                                 

                                Does that help?

                                 

                                  • Re: Using Calibre to back up your nookbooks.
                                    Jafa

                                    NookGardener said

                                     

                                    "1) Download Nook for PC or Nook Study. When you're logged in to B&N, there's an option to download a copy of your books to your pc. (You can generally download a couple at a time.)

                                    2)Once thats done, you can pull the books into calibre to organize your library or add covers if you need them. (Some people just make a copy of their books in another directory if your not interested in using calibre/organizing.)  This way, the copy isnt tied to the B&N program."

                                     

                                     

                                    Yes, thank you, I did do this.  That's the problem.   I have the BN books backed up in Calibre, but Calibre cannot open them due to the BN DRM.   So my backups are just unusable files.  Am I missing a step?

                                     

                                  • Re: Using Calibre to back up your nookbooks.
                                    kamas716

                                    Jafa wrote:

                                    kamas 716 wrote:

                                     

                                    "Your B&N DRMed eBooks that you have saved on your computer will open on your Nook device. Even if B&N were to go belly up tomorrow and take down its servers, all of your NookBooks would continue to work just as they do now.  Any of your NookBooks that you have saved on your computer/flashdrive/CD that you might need to sideload onto your Nook will still open because the encryption key isn't tied into any of the B&N servers but is a part of the eBook file you have saved.  You just need to know your Log In and CC# used to download them"

                                     

                                     

                                    I'm confused.  If BN disappeared tomorrow, how would you access them on Nook for PC when that requires logging in to the server, and how would you get access to your books once your Nook dies?  How would you sideload them to a future device if the DRM would not let you?  What is the best way to make sure I forever have access to my books, even if BN disappeared? 

                                     

                                    I am concerned because Calibre will not let me open most of my books, due to DRM.


                                    As MercuryGlitch said, B&N apps don't have to connect to a server to open the eBooks you already have downloaded onto your computer.  What's already on the computer is yours.

                                     

                                    Calibre has thirdparty plugins that can be added to remove DRM, allowing you to do what you will with your eBooks.  But, even if you don't strip the DRM and just use Calibre as a place to hold your eBook files, you can still read those files with any device/app that reads B&N DRM.  Stripping DRM is technically against the law (see DMCA), but if you aren't sharing the files your chances of being prosecuted are essentially nil.  DRM free files are the best way to safeguard your 'purchases', in my opinion.

                                      • Re: Using Calibre to back up your nookbooks.
                                        Jafa
                                        Thank you to everyone. I know some may think I am overly concerned with the future, but you never know what companies or file formats will be around (or not around) years from now. And a library is a forever thing for me, so I want to do my best to protect the files.
                                        Thank you again
                                          • Re: Using Calibre to back up your nookbooks.

                                            With all of the competing proprietary formats and DRM schemes, it's a legitimate concern that you may lose access to DRM-protected ebooks if you change reading devices or if the ebook seller goes out of business or stops supporting the format you've purchased. 

                                             

                                            This has already happened to me three times - first with MS Reader, then with Gemstar and lastly with the Franklin Bookman.  The only way to protect against this is to buy DRM-free ebooks whenever possible or to remove the DRM from those that have it.

                                             

                                            This article is the "standard" online resource for explaining how DRM affects you and what you can do to protect yourself: http://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/ebooks-formats-drm-and-you-%E2%80%94-a-guide-for-the-perplexed/

                                             

                                            If you're using Calibre with these plug-ins to convert and store your ebooks, there's one important step I wanted to emphasize.  The plug-ins will only work when you initially add an ebook to your library.  So, it's important to install and configure the plug-ins before adding your books to Calibre.