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      • 15. Re: Nook 2.0, no web browser, no sale.

        I can see where  you'e going here, but, to my eye, a device like this uses Wifi to buy books.  Thus, I take it to a wireless hotspot, buy books, and then turn the Wifi off.   I use the wifi occassionally at BN stores, but that's it.  So for me, the possibility that I would not be able to sign on at a hotspot that requires some kind of sign-in doesn't seem much of a limitation to me.  But that's how I use my Nook, and maybe you have other needs...so then your concerns would be legit.

        • 16. Re: Nook 2.0, no web browser, no sale.

          I've never used my browser, not once!  For me it would not be missed.

          • 17. Re: Nook 2.0, no web browser, no sale.

            Haleakala_LKB wrote:

            To me, it's kind of like when my daughter was sure she needed the 3G (so that's what we got her for Christmas). She was worried about having a book emergency somewhere with no WiFi, so wanted 3G. Me, I figure before I go on vacation or anywhere I'll have plenty of books loaded already.

             

            In the middle of a 12 hour car ride just this past weekend I had the library book I was reading expire (cr*p!). So I just started reading another book I had on my NOOK.

             

            LisaB


            "book emergency".  Love it!  I actually think it's absurd but it did make me laugh... There was only one time that I ordered an unplanned book and those were special circumstances.  I had downloaded a free PDF version of a book from an author's site and the formatting was so bad on my Nook that I felt obligated to purchase the book so I could read it comfortably.  That happened while I was sitting in a hospital room waiting for my wife to recover from pain meds.  Other than that I always have plenty of books to choose from on my Nook.

            • 18. Re: Nook 2.0, no web browser, no sale.

              AlanNJ wrote:

              Haleakala_LKB wrote:

              To me, it's kind of like when my daughter was sure she needed the 3G (so that's what we got her for Christmas). She was worried about having a book emergency somewhere with no WiFi, so wanted 3G. Me, I figure before I go on vacation or anywhere I'll have plenty of books loaded already.

               

              In the middle of a 12 hour car ride just this past weekend I had the library book I was reading expire (cr*p!). So I just started reading another book I had on my NOOK.

               

              LisaB


              "book emergency".  Love it!  I actually think it's absurd but it did make me laugh... There was only one time that I ordered an unplanned book and those were special circumstances.  I had downloaded a free PDF version of a book from an author's site and the formatting was so bad on my Nook that I felt obligated to purchase the book so I could read it comfortably.  That happened while I was sitting in a hospital room waiting for my wife to recover from pain meds.  Other than that I always have plenty of books to choose from on my Nook.


              I tend to think of it as having something to do with the over 20 year difference between my daughter and myself. Sort of that instant gratification thing the young often have. 

               

              Before anyone blasts me, yes, I know, not ALL young people are like this, and plenty of oldster also have it. Just sayin', in general....

               

              LisaB

              • 19. Re: Nook 2.0, no web browser, no sale.

                I can live without the 3G but no web browser is the real killer for me.  I was on vacation a month ago and was able to log on to the hotel wi-fi and check my email everyday sitting at the pool.  I could not read my email on my iPhone because of the glare and my Nook worked perfectly.    Without the browser I would not have been able to access the hotel's wi-fi.

                 

                B&N, please rethink the web browser on the new Nook!

                • 20. Re: Nook 2.0, no web browser, no sale.

                  I didn't read through the entire five pages here, but...

                   

                  Does anyone think that they will come out with a 3G+WiFi verison of this? I don't want to have to rely on a WiFi connection. I'm also concerned with not having a browser ONLY because of what was mentioned here (hotels, airports, etc.)

                   

                  Also, does anyone know the answer to these two questions:

                   

                  -Are there still page-turning buttons on the side (can't tell from the pics)?

                   

                  -Can you lock the screen from touch? In other words, if I accidentally touch the touchscreen, I don't want to activate something.

                   

                  Thanks!

                  • 21. Re: Nook 2.0, no web browser, no sale.

                    Good questions:

                     


                    JaneRenee wrote:

                    I didn't read through the entire five pages here, but...

                     

                    Does anyone think that they will come out with a 3G+WiFi verison of this? I don't want to have to rely on a WiFi connection. I'm also concerned with not having a browser ONLY because of what was mentioned here (hotels, airports, etc.)

                     

                    Also, does anyone know the answer to these two questions:

                     

                    -Are there still page-turning buttons on the side (can't tell from the pics)?

                     

                    -Can you lock the screen from touch? In other words, if I accidentally touch the touchscreen, I don't want to activate something.

                     

                    Thanks!


                    1. I really don't know, but I doubt it.  It looks like they are moving away from 3G.  I'm guessing it turned out to be more expensive for them than they thought it would be.  But I could be wrong.

                    2. Yes, there are page turn buttons.

                    3. That I don't know yet.

                    • 22. Re: Nook 2.0, no web browser, no sale.

                      Nallia wrote:

                      Good questions:

                       


                      JaneRenee wrote:

                      I didn't read through the entire five pages here, but...

                       

                      Does anyone think that they will come out with a 3G+WiFi verison of this? I don't want to have to rely on a WiFi connection. I'm also concerned with not having a browser ONLY because of what was mentioned here (hotels, airports, etc.)

                       

                      Also, does anyone know the answer to these two questions:

                       

                      -Are there still page-turning buttons on the side (can't tell from the pics)?

                       

                      -Can you lock the screen from touch? In other words, if I accidentally touch the touchscreen, I don't want to activate something.

                       

                      Thanks!


                      1. I really don't know, but I doubt it.  It looks like they are moving away from 3G.  I'm guessing it turned out to be more expensive for them than they thought it would be.  But I could be wrong.

                      2. Yes, there are page turn buttons.

                      3. That I don't know yet.


                      Thanks for the replies! 

                       

                      I could handle WiFi only, I guess. However, like others have stated - how can you even use that most places without a simple web browser to log on, accept conditions, etc.?

                       

                      The only thing I DON'T like about my current 3G+WiFi Nook is that I can't lock the touchscreen at the bottom and that it weighs a lot. It makes my purse much heavier. 

                      • 23. Re: Nook 2.0, no web browser, no sale.

                        While I can't claim to be twenty by any stretch, I will admit that part of the JOY of the Nook experience is the immediate gratification of getting the book you want/need.

                         

                        When I finish a book and enjoyed that author, I  go out and immediately look for the next book from that author or series.   I don't want to get in the car and drive across town or across an island to a store.   While I could claim it is due to my environmental conscience, that is just a benefit.

                        • 24. Re: Nook 2.0, no web browser, no sale.

                          Kujako wrote:

                          Sorry, but a WiFi only device without a web browser is next to useless.


                           

                           

                           

                          It's called a "book".

                           

                           

                          • 25. Re: Nook 2.0, no web browser, no sale.

                            Something to think about...when the 3G N1E came out, at $269, it had no games or web browser. The software update that contained it (1.3) came out in April 2010, I believe, almost 7 months after it was initially release (and prior to the release of the WiFi only version).

                             

                            Sony's PRS-950 is the only mainstream Pearl E-ink screen I can think of that has a web browser and from my experience (and I've heard the same from others) the browser is incredible simple (in terms of functions, not necessarily ease of use).

                             

                            Perhaps B&N will make one available in a future software update, as they did with N1E, perhaps not. Maybe they'll offer optional software updates in addition to standard ones. If there's enough people making it known online and in-stores, they very well may consider it. But the combination of e-ink and touchscreen requires a different kind of browser setup than what we have on the N1E.

                             

                            Personally, I'm more dismayed that it doesn't play music; I thoroughly enjoy putting in headphones and listening to music while I read. But as someone said earlier in this thread....if one wants a web browser, games, a music player, etc, then they want something that's more than an e-reader, and Nook Color is the better option for that (as well as the N1E as long as its available).

                            • 26. Re: Nook 2.0, no web browser, no sale.

                              The original Nook was $259 (unless you paid a premium).  Personally I hope they don't add ANY software updates to the new one unless it makes the reading experience better.

                              • 27. Re: Nook 2.0, no web browser, no sale.

                                It seems to me that what BN has done is put out a single use device, it's a eReader, nothing more.  Folks who want more than a single use device are not happy because the web browser is gone, the music is gone etc, but I honestly believe this was all intentional on B&N part.  I believe there is a market for a device that does one thing only and does it well.  

                                 

                                I put one on hold for my mother, because that's what she needs, a device that only does one thing.  She'd love a phone that was just a phone, one reason why she hasn't upgraded her phone in a while, she doesn't want all the bells and whistles.

                                 

                                It's also why I think B&N is making a mistake totally discontinuing the N1E.  There's a market for people who want an eInk reader that will also play music and perhaps a few games.  They are going to push those people to another device.

                                 

                                If I was in the market for an eReader today, I'd seriously consider the N2E, because I don't do anything on my Nook except read.  I used to play Soduku but not a lot.  The only thing I would miss from my N1E is the 3G.

                                • 28. Re: Nook 2.0, no web browser, no sale.

                                  I agree. With neither 3G, nor the ability to sign into a wifi connection, what's the point?

                                  I bought the more expensive 3G Nook because it could connect anywhere my cell can connect.

                                  I'm often on the road or in an airport or hotel when I want to connect to B&N, and the nature of my work means that I'm often in small towns (or no town at all) where there are no ATT hotspots and any wifi requires a password. The travelling is the reason why I got an e-reader in the first place, and I often download books when I'm away from home. 

                                  I travel a lot because of my work, and have a very basic phone, so when I bring my Nook I can check my email without lugging my laptop with me and risking damaging it.  Yes, it's a bit clumsy to use the browser, but it works for what I use it for (surely they could have made it less clumsy and therefore more useful to all rather than take it away entirely.)

                                  I'm also not seeing the ability to play mp3s on the new version.  Have they done away with that as well? Another reason why I chose this version was to get the ability to download and play audio books while I'm driving across country, or any other time.

                                   

                                  Seems like they've gotten rid of the main things that made me choose Nook in the first place over the alternatives.  I do hope they continue to support the first version so we can keep our existing Nooks going as long as possible.  It'd be a real pain to have to switch to a new reader having spent all this money on Nookbooks, but I want my browser, 3G, and my audiobooks. 

                                  • 29. Re: Nook 2.0, no web browser, no sale.

                                    garnet_rose wrote:

                                    I agree. With neither 3G, nor the ability to sign into a wifi connection, what's the point?

                                    I bought the more expensive 3G Nook because it could connect anywhere my cell can connect.

                                    I'm often on the road or in an airport or hotel when I want to connect to B&N, and the nature of my work means that I'm often in small towns (or no town at all) where there are no ATT hotspots and any wifi requires a password. The travelling is the reason why I got an e-reader in the first place, and I often download books when I'm away from home. 

                                    I travel a lot because of my work, and have a very basic phone, so when I bring my Nook I can check my email without lugging my laptop with me and risking damaging it.  Yes, it's a bit clumsy to use the browser, but it works for what I use it for (surely they could have made it less clumsy and therefore more useful to all rather than take it away entirely.)

                                    I'm also not seeing the ability to play mp3s on the new version.  Have they done away with that as well? Another reason why I chose this version was to get the ability to download and play audio books while I'm driving across country, or any other time.

                                     

                                    Seems like they've gotten rid of the main things that made me choose Nook in the first place over the alternatives.  I do hope they continue to support the first version so we can keep our existing Nooks going as long as possible.  It'd be a real pain to have to switch to a new reader having spent all this money on Nookbooks, but I want my browser, 3G, and my audiobooks. 


                                    It was clarified yesterday that you can sign into a WiFi connection that requires accepting a TOS, such as a hotel or airport.

                                     

                                    The N2E appears to be designed to do one thing and one thing only, be an eReader.  I suspect that it's exactly what they intended it to be.  If they wanted it to have an MP3 player and a web browser, they've have designed those in, since they have a eInk reader that does that now, they obviously know how to implement it.

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