6 Replies Latest reply on May 2, 2012 10:15 AM by nlstein

    B&N and Microsoft venture

    nlstein

      I'm all for MS putting $300 Million into B&N. I just hope it doesn't end up leaving us Apple people out in the cold. I love my NST and the way it is supported on my iPad and iMac and would hate to loose ANY of its functionality or future updated functions.

       

      Anyone worried?

        • Re: B&N and Microsoft venture
          MacMcK1957

          MS sells millions of dollars in software for Macs.  They're not stupid.  Not on that score, anyway.

            • Re: B&N and Microsoft venture
              nlstein

              While you are correct that MS sells a lot of software through Apple and one would think they wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot we've all seem them make some VERY stupid mistakes. Just look at some of the versions of WIndows, their music player and all those older phones (and in MHO their current phone too).

               

              Fingers crossed.

                • Re: B&N and Microsoft venture
                  keriflur

                  nlstein wrote:

                  While you are correct that MS sells a lot of software through Apple and one would think they wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot we've all seem them make some VERY stupid mistakes. Just look at some of the versions of WIndows, their music player and all those older phones (and in MHO their current phone too).

                   

                  Fingers crossed.


                  Let's hope they've learned from their past mistakes.

                   

                  Do you know if the current Windows phone plays nice with Macs?  I can't imagine there are many Mac owners that have Windows phones (LOL), but it be nice to know if there are issues there, as (regardless of what they say their intentions are now) I wouldn't be surprised to see a nook with a windows base rather than an android one.

                  • Re: B&N and Microsoft venture

                    nlstein wrote:

                    While you are correct that MS sells a lot of software through Apple and one would think they wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot we've all seem them make some VERY stupid mistakes. Just look at some of the versions of WIndows, their music player and all those older phones (and in MHO their current phone too).

                     

                    Fingers crossed.


                    I think their music player (the Zune) was more a failure in marketing than actual hardware/software because the Zune was actually a pretty nice device.  In fact, you can see lots of Zune influence in their new Windows Phone OS, the new Xbox dashboard, and even in Windows 8 Metro.  So, like I said, I think their marketing department really dropped the ball on that one.

                     

                    I do agree with the "they're not stupid" sentiment and I don't believe they'd cut off their nose to spite their face.  I think it boils down to: what will (directly or indirectly) make the most money (or lose the least)?  Is it better to support Apple and reap the rewards of content sales and more brand recognition?  Or, is it better to keep things proprietary and try to disuade people from buying Apple (i.e.: non-Windows) products.

                     

                    I suppose time will tell what they decide.

                      • Re: B&N and Microsoft venture
                        MacMcK1957

                        I think the important factor is knowing who the enemy is.  If MS wants to come into this market they know who the enemy is, and it's Amazon.  Failing to fully support Apple platforms would cripple their ability to compete, and they must know that.  There are two possibilities for where the market can go: an open market including Amazon, MS/BN, Google, Apple and others; or an oligopoly where Apple sells content for their own devices and Amazon dominates everything else.

                          • Re: B&N and Microsoft venture
                            nlstein

                            Three birds in one reply:

                             

                            First, I basically agree that it would not make sense for MS to stop supporting Apple on the Nook since Amazon is indeed the one to go after. Let's hope MS sees it that way. And let's not forget that MS doesn't have anything close to controlling interest in B&N's Nook.

                             

                            Secondly, I have no first hand knowledge of the MS phone working with iTunes, but my guess would be NO! Apple is very protective and to my knowledge only Apple products play nice with iTunes. Nothing I've read indicates otherwise.

                             

                            Lastly, and certainly least, the IMHO the Zune was DOA and no marketing department could have sold it. There's an old adage, "poorly designed product (or advertising) makes a bad product fail faster". The Zune was doomed from the start and no marketing department was going to save it.