10 Replies Latest reply on Feb 4, 2013 3:53 AM by Tim40744

    Shelving Sideloaded Books

    Larrym19

      I have almost 3,000 eBooks on my Nook - most of which are comics on a 64GB microSD card. As you might imagine my Books list is massive. When I sideload a new book onto the Nook I have an AWFUL time trying to swipe down the list until I get to it.

       

      1) From the Search Results I can't shelve a book?

      2) From the MyFiles->Books I can't shelve a book?

       

      I tried searching for it and opening it. It then appears on my "carosel" on the home page and the list on the bottom of the home page (accessed recently) but neither one of those allow me to shelve it.

       

      The only realistic way to shelve a book is to pull the SD card, shelve it, reinsert the card. This seems a bit antiquated. Di B&N not anticapate thousands of eBook their product or am I missing a key capability.

       

      If anyone has any idea - please help. This is a serious PIA.

        • Re: Shelving Sideloaded Books
          NookGardener
          You're spot on again!!! Please, please see the issue forum. ( It's the many titles that start with "The" that drive me crazy, sometimes it's in the metadata, sometimes it's not, alwaysa guessing game.) Endless......scrolling......is.....tedious..... With that many books, are you using Calibre? compulsivereader pointed out their cataloguing feature a few weeks ago. (Basically, you create your own epub with your own lists ie shelves.) Dont have any comics myself but as long as they are epub files, dont see why it wouldnt work.
          • Re: Shelving Sideloaded Books
            NookGardener

            If you go to MyLibrary-MyBooks, find your sideloaded book, if you press and hold the book (not tap, HOLD) dont you get an option to Add to Home, Add to Shelf? (Note: the shelf needs to already exist if you use this method.) 

             

            IMO, not convinced that B&N's shelving system is a good option for you.  (Can see that you are new to the forum, just dont want you to put in all that time and effort just yet if the shelves arent stable yet.  Some users are now fixed, others still having issues.) See some of the other threads on this topic and maybe test it out a little before you go all out shelving everything.

              • Re: Shelving Sideloaded Books
                Swamprat

                NookGardener wrote:

                If you go to MyLibrary-MyBooks, find your sideloaded book, if you press and hold the book (not tap, HOLD) don't you get an option to Add to Home, Add to Shelf? (Note: the shelf needs to already exist if you use this method.) 

                 

                IMO, not convinced that B&N's shelving system is a good option for you.  (Can see that you are new to the forum, just dont want you to put in all that time and effort just yet if the shelves arent stable yet.  Some users are now fixed, others still having issues.) See some of the other threads on this topic and maybe test it out a little before you go all out shelving everything.


                I agree that shelving may not be a good option for you, at least not at this time.  If you have thousands of books, it may not be worth the trouble to shelve them, even if they get the issues resolved and they stop disappearing. The display spacing in both My Files and Shelves is so large that it is difficult to deal with large numbers of files.

                 

                As an alternative, I recommend you take a look at the free Open Explorer app.  It will allow you to look at files in a more directory like display and to copy, move, delete or rename them and you can open them from the listing.  It will also allow access to files on PCs connected to the same network. The app is not without problems though, it doesn't display the path consistently and the multi column display truncates long file names and it is slow and sometimes crashes when trying to manipulate files. If you think it would work for you, I would recommend using a PC to manipulate/rename files.

                 

                i would be interested to know what brand/class SD card you are using and what your experience has been. I am planning to get a 64GB card but am not sure if I want a class 10 - just picked up a SanDisk 32GB class 10 for $23 so will see how that works.

                 

                Good luck and please post your results if you try Open Explorer.

                  • Re: Shelving Sideloaded Books
                    Larrym19
                    SwampRat - I have the following microSD card and have not had a single problem with it. Amazon has raised the price $9 since I bought it (SOBs). SanDisk Ultra 64 GB MicroSDXC Class 10 UHS-1 Memory Card with Adapter (SDSDQU-064G-AFFP-A) I would highly recommend it.
                      • Re: Shelving Sideloaded Books
                        Swamprat

                        Larrym19 wrote:
                        SwampRat - I have the following microSD card and have not had a single problem with it. Amazon has raised the price $9 since I bought it (SOBs). SanDisk Ultra 64 GB MicroSDXC Class 10 UHS-1 Memory Card with Adapter (SDSDQU-064G-AFFP-A) I would highly recommend it.

                        Thanks - will check that out!

                        • Re: Shelving Sideloaded Books
                          Tim40744

                          Larrym19 wrote:
                          SwampRat - I have the following microSD card and have not had a single problem with it. Amazon has raised the price $9 since I bought it (SOBs). SanDisk Ultra 64 GB MicroSDXC Class 10 UHS-1 Memory Card with Adapter (SDSDQU-064G-AFFP-A) I would highly recommend it.

                          Amazon has the 32 Gig cards discounted 66% and the 64 Gig cards are 53% off, today only, while supplies last.

                    • Re: Shelving Sideloaded Books

                      I'll second what Swamp Rat said

                       

                      1) Shelves are still disappearing for some users.

                       

                      It's definitely related to SD Cards. So shelves you make using books on SD Card will quite possibly disappear. Wasting all the time you put in.

                       

                      2) Best solution is to use FileExplorer or something and to create your own directory structure and use that.

                       

                      *****

                       

                      I don't think B&N (or for that matter) Amazon see solving shelves as a priority. For them the ideal is if user has everything in the cloud and just download 5-20 books at a time to read.

                       

                      That focus has been clear for Amazon since 2007 (when they didn't even have shelves) and lately B&N's moves seem to suggest it's going in the same direction.

                      • Re: Shelving Sideloaded Books
                        Allem-o

                        Wouldn't it be nice if we could perform large shelving exercises via our desktop/laptops vs. pecking/scrolling on our Nooks?? 

                         

                        What I mean is to be able to hook up a nook via USB and then create, arrange, and add titles through drag and drop would save tremendous time.

                         

                        Is 'Shelving' available this way?

                          • Re: Shelving Sideloaded Books
                            compulsivereaderTX

                            Allem-o wrote:

                            Wouldn't it be nice if we could perform large shelving exercises via our desktop/laptops vs. pecking/scrolling on our Nooks?? 

                             

                            What I mean is to be able to hook up a nook via USB and then create, arrange, and add titles through drag and drop would save tremendous time.

                             

                            Is 'Shelving' available this way?


                            Yes, via the Calibre for your sideloaded books. If you are willing to download your BN books to your pc and import them into Calibre, you can use it for your BN books as well. Calibre is a very good library tool. You can create catalogs of all your books, purchase books from other retailers, convert books to epubs, etc,, set up Calibre Server so you can access your library using your device browser, find and update metadata and covers, etc, download your books via the server or hook up via USB and have Calibre transfer the books for you. Calibre will not set up shelves for you ON your device, however, you can set up folders on your device and tell Calibre to place books into specific folders (you have to be hooked up via USB for this function as the server places all your books into your download folder)

                             

                             

                          • Re: Shelving Sideloaded Books
                            Larry, I feel your pain. My home library is extensive - people constantly ask "have you really read all those books and the answer is YES. B&N does not seem to get that some of its customers are gonna be casual users and some of us are gonna be heavy users. I'm still getting my feet wet with this device because I don't want to get it set so I can't easily migrate because I failed to plan. Would be interested to know if other users have put together a roadmap. Ehow.com has been a godsend. Mashable also has a warning out that you lose DRM if you let your credit card lapse, so be careful with your use of the cloud.