11 Replies Latest reply on Apr 8, 2013 8:40 AM by NanCarder

    Not enough "sales" to stay around.

      I am beginning to wonder if PubIt is the place to go for posting my ebooks. I have done everything I can to improve my content uploads, but while the reader shows a good upload I have not received more than maybe 1 to 2 sales per month of any title, and none for the rest. I thought that Nook was supposed be the great alternative to Amazon, but perhaps I was wrong. Maybe there are not enough people buying books, as many blogs have suggested. All I know is that while I see many ebooks getting best seller status from authors whose books were published by one of the big 6, the rest of us are left to struggle to even be noticed. If after millions of Nooks are sold, I can't even sell more than 1 or 2 books a month, it is becoming clear to me that maybe we're just here to be stuffing for the catalog, nothing more. If I don't see more sales in the coming months I will pull out in June and make an end of my relationship with Barnes and Noble.

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          It is essentially the same with Amazon.com, Smashwords, Kobo, etc. Amazon's policy of Select free ebook downloads has saturated the market, and with about 2000 ebooks per day continuing to be published, paid sales per author continue to decline. Both Amazon and BandN reported losses this last quarter. Either they will wise up, or leave the ebook industry. They cannot continue operating at a loss very much longer.

           

          I have 22 titles with BandN and 24 with Amazon, my sales have all fallen off a cliff. With a print book you could use it to help start a fire, or as toilet paper, but what good is an ebook that doesn't sell?

           

          My best seller used to be "Jack the Ripper versus Sherlock Holmes."

           

          "Why buy the cow, when you can get the milk free?" Why indeed.

           

          Phillip Duke Ph.D.

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            jessiemay2

            I feel the pain. For short stories it's been worse at Amazon. But pull your books? And do what with them? Might as well let them stay until maybe things turn around. Also take this time to examine your books closely to make sure they're the best they can be. They aren't charging us for server storage yet, so I see no reason to yank books.

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              NDraylock

              I am no best seller, but my sales at B&N are about 40X what they are at amazon, and though often slow to answer questions, B&N has generally served me quite well thus far.  So many factors relate to sales for indies that its hard to predict why one book sells and another doesn't....keep trying

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                Tm-Moore wrote:

                I am beginning to wonder if PubIt is the place to go for posting my ebooks. I have done everything I can to improve my content uploads, but while the reader shows a good upload I have not received more than maybe 1 to 2 sales per month of any title, and none for the rest. I thought that Nook was supposed be the great alternative to Amazon, but perhaps I was wrong. Maybe there are not enough people buying books, as many blogs have suggested. All I know is that while I see many ebooks getting best seller status from authors whose books were published by one of the big 6, the rest of us are left to struggle to even be noticed. If after millions of Nooks are sold, I can't even sell more than 1 or 2 books a month, it is becoming clear to me that maybe we're just here to be stuffing for the catalog, nothing more. If I don't see more sales in the coming months I will pull out in June and make an end of my relationship with Barnes and Noble.



                Wow! The responses to this question have been a real eye opener. I too have been trying to figure out why out of every 100 e-books sold... only 2 are sold on Nook. I write western novels. My prices range from $3.95 to $5.95. Although, I occasionally run short term promotions for  99 cents on new releases. Surprisingly, the 99 cent promos have had mixed results. Which I attribute strictly to the strength of the cover and title. I will not give books away for free as I believe this is a significant contributor to the overall problem. However, admittedly when I published my first book I fell into that trap. As for my intentions...I agree with those that have suggested to weather the storm. It doesn't make sense to give up 2% of my sales in this difficult time. Unfortunately, the indie publishing movement has resulted in a flood of literary garbage, but eventually the cream will rise to the top.

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                  I understand your frustrations.  I've been published since November 2012 and still haven't sold enough to get a first payment.  Money would be nice but in the grand scheme of things that's not why I write.

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                      Lisa, for increased sales I suggest you do this: Publish with KDP and Kobo.com as well as with BarnesandNoble.com. Promote with Nookboards.com. When you Post on a Forum list at least one book. If you don't have a website get one, and promote yourself and your work there. Then you will get a check every month, like I do. My website is Philduke.weebly.com, if you see something there you might like to read let me know, and I will gift it to you. You might like "Soul Mates Forever." Whatever happens, do not be discouraged. The longer you write, and the more you publish, the greater your chance of success.

                       

                      Good luck, and many paid sales to you.

                       

                      Phillip Duke Ph.D.

                      drpduke@wmconnect.com

                       

                      My current best seller is "Jack the Ripper versus Sherlock Holmes" The runner-up best seller is "Sherlock Holmes and the Flying Machine." Third is "HEROIN God's Own Medicine."

                       

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                      The cover image is a Ripper victim crime scene photograph.

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                      It's official; I just pulled off my ebooks and am going somewhere else. After checking sales once more just to make sure, I can report that I have not had sales since the 1st of March. PubIt owes me money for previous months and I am waiting for that, but I had better luck with another distributor so I think I'll just go back to them.

                       

                      I had thought that slow sales there was because I was not using PubIt then and BN preferred to receive the downloads from PubIt, yet it has become clear that it is simply because there are not enough readers buying Nooks or looking for books to make any headway. I won't miss this slow going forum. Everything here is slow, so it's like pulling molasses. But this is my last post anyway. So goodbye and good luck, and I'll be toasting my departure like you will be no doubt.

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                          I am new to B&N, I still have my books listed on Amazon and Kobo, with no plans for taking them down at any time,   I am currently looking into other places to set up my books for sale.   Since I started out on Amazon first with KDP, I see good sales there.  Not awesome, not off the charts but good.   I have only recently started selling on B&N, so far so good.  I have qualified to start getting paid.  However, I think there are a few reasons why it has for me.

                           

                          I run my mouth all over the place about my books.  Also, I have a Street Team of about 25+or- at any time that post the links to publicize my books.  They do NOT get paid, they do it because they beta read for me, they also do it so that they get my books the day before I publish for whatever form they use for their ereaders.

                           

                          The way I see it, it doesn't matter how long you have been writing, you should be able to take your fan base with you no matter where you publish at.  If you tell everyone, you push and you SALE your books to everyone until you get established then you should be able to work it.  Don't limit yourself to just one site, sale wherever you can.  

                           

                          I want to say that everyone that has given you advice on this forum for this issue that you have shot down and sent negative comments to you should have said thank you in the very least.  I found that very rude.  That simply has put me off from reading your books.

                           

                          Good luck to you and I hope you find what you're looking for.

                           

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                              Hello, Nan, I would like to communicate with you by email about your interest in "looking into other places to set up my books for sale." If you list an ebook on my website Philduke.weebly.com, you will receive the entire sales price for every sale. I pay the first of the month. At this time I am looking to build up site traffic, not make money off it. I have 24 ebooks with Amazon.com and 22 with Barnes and Noble.com. I also do editing, sometimes for free. An  ebook listed with me cannot also be on the Amazon.com Select Program.

                               

                              If interested, take a look at my website. My most popular ebook is "Jack the Ripper versus Sherlock Holmes" http://amazon.com/dp/B008BX0C2Y. Please reply by email, thanks.

                               

                              Best regards,

                               

                              Phil Duke Ph.D.

                              drpduke@wmconnect.com

                              Jack the Ripper versus Sherlock Holmes

                              Cover image is a Jack the Ripper victim crime scene photo.

                               

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                                The one who is being rude here is you, Nan. You post a big photo of your book on the thread and then tell me you won't read my books. You say you are new, when I have been writing for 40 years, and published for 10. You can't give me any advice as I have heard it all before, and I do fine on my own, having also published a book about PUBLISHING.

                                 

                                I got off the PubIt board and returned to Smashwords, where my ebooks got delivered to Barnes & Noble almost right away. My ebooks are also distributed to Kobo, Diesel, Sony, Apple and a host of other ebook sellers. Also my print books, which are professionally printed for me and distributed worldwide. I also sell direct from my own site. When I told PubIt I was leaving their whole attitude was "fine. Don't let the door hit you on the way out." which means they did not care what was happening. If that does not bother authors who are not getting enough sales I don't know what will.

                                 

                                Now, I have read an article on DBW which says that all the hype about ebooks may indeed be hype, as apparently not enough ereaders were purchased from anywhere to make a significant dent in the print book market, and book stores are trying to make up the difference by sell ereaders thermselves but most of their customers are content with print. So maybe I am worrying needlessly about ebooks when I should be worrying about finishing my next book. I would rather do that than take advice from people who don't know what they are talking about.

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                                    The reason TM I won't read your books is because of your negative attitude.  Yes, you do have one.  Anyone attempts to give you an advice and you shoot back not only a nasty comment but you take it to a personal level.  If I see an author, any author whether it be you or Stephen King with a nasty attitude toward anyone I tend to shy away.  I don't see how rewarding someone who is negative is a good thing and that includes buying your books.

                                     

                                    I understand not wanting to publish on anyone's website, I also understand your frustration.  Personally, I wouldn't care to put my work up on anyone else's website that I didn't know either since I have no clue if they would be honest enough to pay me as they said they would, etc... That merely means I don't know them enough to trust them with my money.  I can't fault you with that at all.  However, once again you should have emailed that person and told him thanks but no thanks, apparently from his response you did not. That I too found rude.  Instead of taking it private you kept whining ontheboards.

                                     

                                    You may have been doing this for 40 years, and I confess I am a newbie at publishing, however, once again instead of coming back to say you had fixed your problem and this is how you did it, you turned your response into a personal attack on me and pointed out that I had made a mistake with my posting.  Why not tell me how to fix it?  No worries, I have figured that out.  Once again, I do apologize for that mistake.

                                     

                                    I wish you good luck with Smashwords, I know that basically they handle most everything for you as far as getting your books up on the different available sites.   I don't agree with Pubit's attitude.  I am finding limited success as well for me, however, that doesn't mean I am going to give up.  It means that I promote, I work it until I can't anymore.  I won't blame them for my lack success, for I see that as mine to own.  I hold my future in my own hands, and where there is a will there is a way.  I am a survivor.  I learn from my mistakes and move on.  No regrets.  

                                     

                                    You seem to only want the pity party, you want others to rise up and gripe with you.  You would be one of those that I would shy away from in a work place, always finding the negative.  There is a positive.  Summer is coming, which means that people will be taking more vacations, wanting a book to take with them and I hope it's mine they choose.  I plan to get the word out and bring attention to my work rather than throwing a fit and complaining.  I do something about it.

                                     

                                    Length of time in a career doesn't necessarily mean you are successful.  If you're not you have to ask yourself Why?  You are the only person that can change what you don't like, nobody can do that for you.  

                                     

                                    I am sorry if you find me rude, some do since I do tend to be blunt and give my own honest point of view.  Some can take it, learn from it and some just ignore it.  Whichever you choose, TM is up to you.  I wish you good luck to your future.