19 Replies Latest reply on Jan 26, 2013 2:40 AM by 5ivedom

    Google Play on nook!

      I love my nook but I think it would be much, much better if b&n allowed google play to operate natively, IMO it is a nobrainer. Am I right?
        • Re: Google Play on nook!
          flyingtoastr

          You don't "allow" Google Play.

           

          You pay Google a licencing fee, then redesign your device to meet the exact specs that are required bu Google, and then you are given the ability to enable Google services on your device. If you don't mind paying another $50 so you can save $3 on Angry Birds go for it.

           

          And no, I don't want the crap-pile that is the Android Market on my NOOK.

          • Re: Google Play on nook!
            PJLLB

            Get an Android for Nook SD card, or buy their download and make your own, and you can use Google Play (and the Amazon Android Market for that matter) and enjoy full functionality.

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              Toastr is correct, though, about the Google Play requirements. It is set up to require an Android phone or eqjivalent, including voice, camera, gps, etc. That the NT doesn't have. If you notice, the CM7 system used by the N2A and AFN cards contain all those apps, even when they can't possibly work. That makes you look enough like a phone that you can slip through. I'm sure BN could work something out with Google, but, as he said, it'll cost you on the front end. For the record, i'm typing this now from an NT with an AFN card installed. It's great, but I still prefer the stock NT for reading and things like that. If you want a cheap tablet and won't miss the camera, etc., the cards make it that, too.
                • Re: Google Play on nook!
                  bobstro

                  Reisnice wrote:
                  Toastr is correct, though, about the Google Play requirements. It is set up to require an Android phone or eqjivalent, including voice, camera, gps, etc. That the NT doesn't have. If you notice, the CM7 system used by the N2A and AFN cards contain all those apps, even when they can't possibly work. That makes you look enough like a phone that you can slip through.

                  With all due respect, Reisnice, you've got quite a bit wrong: Google Play works just fine on the NOOK Tablet and Color if you root the device. I've got two NST, two NOOK Colors and a NOOK Tablet right here, each running Google Play, or in the case of the NST, an earlier version of the Market with some annoyances.

                   

                  B&N has made it difficult, but that's no fault of Google's. Were B&N to remove their restrictions, there's nothing that would keep you from having full access. Of course, not every app will necessarily work on the B&N implementation of Android 2.x, nor will some common Android features such as GPS be present, so there will still be limits on what you can do. 

                   

                  You do NOT require AFN/N2A or any other work-around other than rooting the device to enable Google Play access.

                • Re: Google Play on nook!
                  bobstro

                  RickFL wrote:
                  I love my nook but I think it would be much, much better if b&n allowed google play to operate natively, IMO it is a nobrainer. Am I right?

                  RickFL, I'm afraid that you're about to discover that your device is fully capable of accessing Google Play and a wide world of Android apps, but that B&N doesn't want you to do that, and is going out of their way to make it difficult. If you find you can't live within the limitations of what B&N impose, you have a few options:

                   

                  1. Root the device. A rooted NT can access the full Google Play marketplace. At that point, it's a question of app compatibility.
                   

                  2. Load alternate firmware. You can boot N2A/AFN or roll your own (and learn a bit in the process) to boot an alternate firmware off of uSD. Note that this runs instead of B&N's firmware, so not everything will be available when you boot to B&N.
                   

                  3. Buy another device. The Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 is available now for pre-order for $250. It's allows access to the full Google Play marketplace, and runs the latest Android 4 "ICS" firmware. It also provides camera, GPS and functional bluetooth. By the time you add the price of either AFN or N2A cards to the NT, the price difference isn't all that much.

                   

                  I've fought the valiant fight with my NC and NST devices for 18 months now, but I'm tired of B&N dictating how I use the device I paid for. I've ordered a Samsung to be my primary portable device, and am looking forward to using the device as I see fit. I do like the B&N interface, but the only features I'll miss are software. The NOOKs will assume a secondary role, or be doled out to family.

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                      when you root a device, doesnt that void any kind of warrenties you might have and if you have trouble with device would you still be able to go to any B&N store and have them help you? that is one of the reasons i choose NOOK over the Kindle (have a brick building i can go to for help)

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                          BruceMcF

                          Computatoe wrote:

                          when you root a device, doesnt that void any kind of warrenties you might have ...


                          Certainly. Not with an SD card on a Nook Color, but for a rooted stock kernel on either an NC or NT, or CM7 install on a NC or an NT, or an SD card system on an NT, it voids the legal requirement to honor the warranty.

                           


                          ... and if you have trouble with device would you still be able to go to any B&N store and have them help you? ...


                          Pragmatically, yes, of course. If you want to hide from them the fact that the warranty has been voided, you would revert the system to stock (and/or remove the SD card) ... though if you've bollixed it up past your ability to fix it up (its very, very hard to bollix it up past AN ability to restore it to stock), you might have to look bashful and say, "aw shucks, I was doing something I saw online, and it didn't work right, can you fix it back up the way it was?"

                           

                          C'mon, remember that these people work in a bookstore, where there are people who come in once a month and read a magazine and then go home, leaving it laying out to be reshelved ... if you ask nice, they'll fix up your gear.

                           

                          And while corporate might not be able to say so, they know if your Nook is running, you're more likely to be buying some Nook books, so they have no real incentive to try to "crack down".

                           


                          fluffypiranha wrote:
                          I agree. I prefer to purchase my books from Barnes & Noble but the selection of applications are lacking. While I am still loving my Nook Tablet, I would love to see Google and Barnes & Noble come to some agreement. I believe it would increase Nook sales

                          The question is whether it would increase sales of Nook books and Nook apps. Since Google is trying to also sell books, and movies, and music using Google Play, and not just Android apps, they are direct competitors with Barnes and Noble. Selling Nooks is a break-even exercise for B&N at best ~ they make their money on media sales to Nook owners.

                           

                          That could be where speculation of the Tablet v2 running Windows8/RT comes from ... it would free B&N from having to have a dedicated app store, and thanks to their deal with Microsoft, the Metro store is not going to get into the business of selling ebooks, unless its B&N doing the selling.

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                        • Re: Google Play on nook!
                          To answer your original question, CM7 is a popular version of the, 'generic' Android operating system which has been adapted for many different smartphones and tablets. You typically buy a memory card and, once you insert it, your Nook Tablet will actually turn into a tablet, less the features, like cameras, that it doesn't have. You can download the Android Nook or Kindle readers to read, or many apps from non-Nook stores online. It will also allow you to switch back to looking like a 'normal' Nook Tablet. The two most popular cards are AndroidForNook and N2A, which you can find discussions of on the forum. If you are more adventurous, you can also download the files and create your own card for free.
                          • Re: Google Play on nook!
                            I agree. I prefer to purchase my books from Barnes & Noble but the selection of applications are lacking. While I am still loving my Nook Tablet, I would love to see Google and Barnes & Noble come to some agreement. I believe it would increase Nook sales
                            • Re: Google Play on nook!
                              I totally want Google Play on my NOOK too!!!
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                                I guess nook just needs to step up to the plate and provide some of the most wanted apps before driving people mad with rooting and re-rooting on every software update.

                                 

                                How hard can it be to include a decent podcast, audiobook app or to work with third party offline content providers to make their apps available(NPR, PBS, SCIFRI, etc.) 

                                 

                                I appreciate Nook being just a reader(not-a-tablet) but IMHO these apps are must for Nook-state of mind people.

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                                    Kahnweiler, I've been thinking about your comment for a week or more. I agree whole-heartedly.

                                     

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                                    a decent podcast, audiobook app or to work with third party offline content providers to make their apps available(NPR, PBS, SCIFRI, etc.)

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                                    The more I think about it the more Apple's approach of having 20-30 core apps they provide themselves for free seems like a really, really good one for users.

                                    • Re: Google Play on nook!
                                      BruceMcF

                                      kahnweiler wrote:

                                      I guess nook just needs to step up to the plate and provide some of the most wanted apps before driving people mad with rooting and re-rooting on every software update.

                                       

                                      How hard can it be to include a decent podcast, audiobook app or to work with third party offline content providers to make their apps available(NPR, PBS, SCIFRI, etc.) 

                                       

                                      I appreciate Nook being just a reader(not-a-tablet) but IMHO these apps are must for Nook-state of mind people.


                                      Yes, this has been my argument for a while. B&N needs a small group ~ maybe two/three programmers and a contacts / relationship manager ~ to identify those non-ad-supported free apps that would make valeu-added complement the core B&N media purchases. If they are commercialproprietary, download them, run them. If they work well as is, contact the distributor to invite them to submit it to the Nook app store. If they have a problem, contact them and offer to work with them to fix the problem to support a submission to the Nook app store.

                                       

                                      If there is a high quality open source solution, they can go through the same process, but if the developer / developer-community is not interested, they can just fine tune it to the Nook devices and release it themselves, with appropriate offer to provide source for those who wish it.

                                       

                                      Also, and this would be the same group since its a complementary activity, go through the in device Nook app searches, identify searches that have matching apps that are not propery keyworded and add the search terms being uses, and for searches that do not have a matching app, include them in their list of apps to consider for soliciting.

                                    • Re: Google Play on nook!
                                      N2A! Works perfect for me
                                        • Re: Google Play on nook!
                                          I am scared of rooting and what not for my nook. Not to mention I don't understand half of what I am suppose to do. I wish Google or Nook would come up with an licensed app that we could use as a birdge of sorts. I would even be willing to pay for it. I love the Nook HD Plus machine, but I don't like the restrictions....
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                                          It is upsetting, as a B&N advocate, that the company would literally state that my nook hd was android system operated. I asked before I purchased. 

                                           

                                          I can't get general apps I use daily like: Bank of America account management app, Facebook, CNN... Just to name a few. I purchased my third nook because of size and portability but without necessary daily uses what good it aside from being just a reader. If you are going to label a product Android system based then provide that or don't call it a tablet. It then becomes a fancier, more expensive e-reader. 

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                                              I wasn't aware that B&N was selling it as Android based. Where did you see that? I don't see any mention of Android ( perhaps I'm missing it).