19 Replies Latest reply on Nov 17, 2010 8:56 PM by aditya

    When will Harry Potter books be available for my NOOK?

        • Re: When will Harry Potter books be available for my NOOK?
          Ya_Ya

          Probably never because JK Rowling will not allow it.

           

          (I guess never isn't exactly accurate; when they become public domain in years and years and years, someone will scan them - but it's not going to be soon.)

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              Ya_Ya wrote:

              Probably never because JK Rowling will not allow it.

               

              (I guess never isn't exactly accurate; when they become public domain in years and years and years, someone will scan them - but it's not going to be soon.)


               

              At some point, sometime, somewhere, even the staunchest buggy whip manufacturer starts working on producing brake pads.

               

              She'll cave before she dies, I rather suspect.

               

              Note that the Metallica/iTunes debate was somewhat similar, and didn't take too long to resolve.

               

              Authors say its all about "authenticity" and "how the book was meant to be read".

               

              Bull. The real concern, I absolutely guarantee, is piracy. Once that concern is alleviated, they'll come over just like everyone else.

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                  Nyght

                  If it was really about "authenticity" and "how the book was meant to be read", then there would not be audiobook versions.

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                      Ya_Ya

                       


                      Nyght wrote:

                      If it was really about "authenticity" and "how the book was meant to be read", then there would not be audiobook versions.


                       

                      I don't think anyone actually believes that it's anything other than a fear of piracy.  It's clear that piracy exists.  We have a poster advertising gleefully that s/he has stolen multiple files.

                       

                      It seems old-fashioned to be anti-ebook, I agree.  But as the author, who still retains the rights to the works, she gets to be old-fashioned.  Stealing her book isn't any less wrong because she's wealthy; if it's distributed free of charge that should be only at her (or an agent acting on her behalf's) discretion.  And it's horrifying that someone else (without rights) could profit by its distribution.  (Well the justification is horrifying, at the very least.)

                       

                      I want these books electronically, don't get me wrong, but she has fears about theft.  I don't have to like the choice she made, but as it is her work, I have to respect that she has the right to make that choice.  The day she becomes unconcerned with piracy is a guaranteed $70 (assuming that they're sold below hardcover and above softcover) from many, many readers.  It's probably a guaranteed $100 from some...

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                          JohnP51

                          I can't think of any ebook I like well enough to want to pirate.But then again, I am from a different generation. One that grew up with adult supervision and was taught right from wrong.

                           

                          As was stated, Rowling has the right to do what she wants with her property. If you don't like it, take it up with her. But with the popularity of her books being what it is, I suspect your catterwallings will fall on deaf ears and she won't respond until the popularity of her HP series wanes and sales start dropping off.

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                              Ya_Ya

                               


                              JohnP51 wrote:

                              I can't think of any ebook I like well enough to want to pirate.But then again, I am from a different generation. One that grew up with adult supervision and was taught right from wrong.

                               


                               

                              Oh, I can think of them.  I just won't do it; I'm part of Gen X, but that's no justification for stealing.  I understand wanting something so badly that you imagine pirating, but taking the action, I can't understand or condone.

                               

                              If what you want isn't available legally in the format you want it to be in, you either buy it in a different format or *you do without*.  

                               

                              (I don't download illegal music, I don't bit torrent software and I didn't share mixed tapes back in the day.)

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                                  swan480

                                  Just wanted to applaud Ya_Ya and JohnP51 for their posts.  I agree, I'd love to own electronic copies of a lot of books, but that doesn't mean I am going to do something immoral.  The writer owns the rights to her work, and calling her selfish for what she chooses to do with it is like calling your neighbor selfish for not sharing his car with everyone on the block.  Furthermore, claiming that you have a right to pirate a book because the author won't make it available electronically doesn't prove anything except that you've got a chip on your shoulder.

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                                    Ya_Ya wrote:

                                     

                                    If what you want isn't available legally in the format you want it to be in, you either buy it in a different format or *you do without*


                                    Or, the omnipresent third choice - you buy it in the format available and format-shift. It's called Fair Use and is not illegal.

                                     

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                                    JohnP51 wrote:

                                    I can't think of any ebook I like well enough to want to pirate.But then again, I am from a different generation. One that grew up with adult supervision and was taught right from wrong.


                                    Is that the same generation that recorded songs from the radio and photocopied books in college to save money and made mixed tapes by recording from purchased cassettes? :smileytongue:

                                     

                                    I'm willing to take your word for it if you say that you personally did neither of those piratical things. But puhleese, don't deify an entire generation and demonize another. Gen X my rear end :smileyvery-happy:. I love how easily these meaningless labels become part of the gestalt. As if entire generations can be described in a few sentences.

                                     

                                    By the way, I haven't done this but scanning a book for your own personal use (without distribution) is apparently legal (and falls within fair use) and is fully ethical too. Perhaps that's what the previous poster did -  I don't know. I do know that there exist several people who scan their (owned) books into electronic form for their own personal use.

                                     

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                                        JohnP51

                                        aditya wrote:

                                         


                                        JohnP51 wrote:

                                        I can't think of any ebook I like well enough to want to pirate.But then again, I am from a different generation. One that grew up with adult supervision and was taught right from wrong.


                                        Is that the same generation that recorded songs from the radio and photocopied books in college to save money and made mixed tapes by recording from purchased cassettes? :smileytongue:

                                         

                                        I'm willing to take your word for it if you say that you personally did neither of those piratical things. But puhleese, don't deify an entire generation and demonize another. Gen X my rear end :smileyvery-happy:. I love how easily these meaningless labels become part of the gestalt. As if entire generations can be described in a few sentences.

                                         

                                        By the way, I haven't done this but scanning a book for your own personal use (without distribution) is apparently legal (and falls within fair use) and is fully ethical too. Perhaps that's what the previous poster did -  I don't know. I do know that there exist several people who scan their (owned) books into electronic form for their own personal use.

                                         


                                        You got all of that from what I posted? And I never said I was a Gen X'er. I am a lot older than that and no, I never did those things. Taping from the radio, while legal, was way too difficult to do and copying books was wrong. The adults who raised me taught me right from wrong.

                                         

                                        As for this current generation is concerned, I don't trust a single one of them. A generation that thinks a promise is just words, hurting someone else is funny, and its okay to do something if you don't get caught. Say what you want to, we now have a generation of spoiled brats who base their moral judgments on "its all about me". Yes, I know I painted a wide swath there. I meant to.

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                                            JohnP51 wrote:

                                            You got all of that from what I posted? And I never said I was a Gen X'er. I am a lot older than that and no, I never did those things. Taping from the radio, while legal, was way too difficult to do and copying books was wrong. The adults who raised me taught me right from wrong.

                                             

                                            As for this current generation is concerned, I don't trust a single one of them. A generation that thinks a promise is just words, hurting someone else is funny, and its okay to do something if you don't get caught. Say what you want to, we now have a generation of spoiled brats who base their moral judgments on "its all about me". Yes, I know I painted a wide swath there. I meant to.


                                             

                                            No, I didn't say you were part of Gen X - just that that's been your target for a long time now and I've been seeing the same refrain from you over and over and over.

                                             

                                            I don't doubt that such people as you describe do exist in this generation. The point is that they have existed in every single generation - even your own. As I said, do not deify an entire generation (your own) while demonizing another (the current one). Remember that the world is in the shape it is because of the people we inherited it from. The people you describe are barely adults - with no real say in the way the world works. The people in power and the people who vote are the elders of a society - that's not my generation. I have little to no respect for previous generations when most people back then didn't even have the basic qualities of human decency (towards everyone, not just select races) until maybe a few decades back.

                                             

                                            As I said, I'll take your word for it that you personally did none of the things I described. But almost everyone was doing it in your generation. So much for the superiority of your generation. However, I'm quite willing to accept that you may be a person of superior morality. Do you see the distinction I'm trying to make here? Perhaps if you stop insulting an entire generation for no reason - you might be able to truly see the heights that the current generation has taken our civilization to. (Yes, there are depths too - but you already know those - how sad that that's all you allow yourself to know)

                                             

                                            Keep your eyes on the underbelly of our generation (and every generation has one - even yours - and it was large and obscene - any history book will bear me out in this and filth is all you'll see. And that's all the paint you'll have to paint your wide swaths with. That's a very limited and limiting worldview.

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                                        Ya_Ya wrote:

                                         


                                        I want these books electronically, don't get me wrong, but she has fears about theft. 


                                         

                                         

                                        I think that the issue here is the majority of posters sincerely believe that they (we) would only consider downloading electronic versions (stealing, pirating, whatever) if/when we are unable to buy an electronic version legally.

                                         

                                        It's the MP3 argument. I'm not going to buy more CDs, no matter how much you wish I would. And once your stuff is available on iTunes, I'm going to buy it all legally. But if it's not available on iTunes, I'm looking over at Napster, count on it.

                                         

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                                      TrevorS wrote:

                                       

                                      Bull. The real concern, I absolutely guarantee, is piracy. Once that concern is alleviated, they'll come over just like everyone else.


                                      Well, since imaginary concerns can never be alleviated, I guess "never" is the currently reigning champion :smileytongue:. The piracy "concern" is a smokescreen for luddite authors.

                                       

                                  • Re: When will Harry Potter books be available for my NOOK?
                                    bklvr896

                                    There are some rumors that Rowlings may be "thinking" about it, but I wouldn't hold my breath at this point.  The books aren't available as eBooks for any device, as the PP said, the author is against it.