10 Replies Latest reply on Dec 24, 2011 5:28 PM by moose_tracker

    1Gb of memory available???

      Please consider the following. To convert a movie that meets the previous specs of the Nook Color (which is far slower and less capable than the Tablet) a MP4 sizes out to between 0.99 Gb to 1.3 Gbs.  This means you are already over the limit of the available size on the Tablet.  This is a software design mistake!  I know you are a business trying to be profitable but as a recent purchaser of the Tablet I am VERY displeased! 

       

      The 8 Gbs on the Kindle Fire now looks far more promising to me.  Honestly, would you prefer a return of my hardware and a switch away from B&N or would rather risk a sale of 1 movie and maintain a happy customer?  Come on engineers/marketers... think!! 

       

      Leftfoot

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          Welcome to the wonderful world of Barnes and Noble.  It's the way they partition the hard drives in their products.  They keep all the space to themselves.  Want more space?  You'll have to buy a card. They did this on the Nook Color, too.  The original Nook Color units shipped without the partition.  They added the new partitioning to new units after their "big" software update.  I think this partitioning stinks.  When you buy a unit that is advertised having 16 gigs, you expect to be able to use it any way you wish.  

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              or just stop belly-aching and buy a friggin' SD card...jeez

               

              that way your content is not stuck in a device that could potentially fail anyway. it's really NOT that big of a deal, in fact you should thank B&N for giving you an SD slot. does the Kindle Fire have that? nope.

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                kayokat wrote:

                Welcome to the wonderful world of Barnes and Noble.  It's the way they partition the hard drives in their products.  They keep all the space to themselves.  Want more space?  You'll have to buy a card. They did this on the Nook Color, too.  The original Nook Color units shipped without the partition.  They added the new partitioning to new units after their "big" software update.  I think this partitioning stinks.  When you buy a unit that is advertised having 16 gigs, you expect to be able to use it any way you wish.  


                They repartitioned NCs because people were downloading apps and finding they had to archive them in order to free up space, even if they didn't want to.  So they also then released newer NCs with the same partitioning scheme.  Otherwise they most likely would have left the partitions alone.  The partitioning had nothing to do with the big software update as you state and was something that on older NCs had to be done in the store by BN personnel, not through an update.  There were very few people that had anything bad to say about the new partition sizes and most people it seems opted to go and get it done on the other NCs.  So, BN most likely concluded it was a non-issue since people could easily add external sd cards for more storage and for most content that used larger storage space (like videos) people used cards, anyway.  The 1gb left over on the device was room enough for a lot of books as well as pics and music, even.  One thing to think about is that most people that buy a device with a card slot are going to get a card.  My phone uses one so I bought one for it.  Why else buy a device that takes a card.  Wow, you have to buy a card-I've bought nooks simply so that I could use a card so of course I would buy a card.

                 

                And the reason people sometimes get snippy here has to do with people that don't state all the facts, that constantly are seeing the worst in everything, and others that call them idiots.  It would make you a bit snippy, too.  But your post already was and was factually incorrect.

                 

                It is often the case that people that don't understand or just want to make an issue of something that may well have a remedy in the future tend to use hyperbole to draw attention to themselves.  As well there have been numerous threads on this subject-some statements by some people that are truly misleading and just plain wrong.

                 

                People truly need to stop and think about how they might use the NT.  If a person does want to get apps, magazines, read to me books, enhanced books, and so on, those things go into that space.

                 

                 

                And this is not "how B&N operates", they did this due to customers' experiences and not because of some malicious intent that you imply.  And the website is quite clear if one cares to look.

                 

                From the website where features of the NT are listed:

                1GB = 1 billion bytes. Actual formatted capacity may be less. Approximately 13GB available to store content, of which up to 12GB may be reserved for content purchased from the Barnes & Noble NOOK Store.

                 

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                  kayokat wrote:

                  Welcome to the wonderful world of Barnes and Noble.  It's the way they partition the hard drives in their products.  They keep all the space to themselves.  Want more space?  You'll have to buy a card. They did this on the Nook Color, too.  The original Nook Color units shipped without the partition.  They added the new partitioning to new units after their "big" software update.  I think this partitioning stinks.  When you buy a unit that is advertised having 16 gigs, you expect to be able to use it any way you wish.  


                  I agree.  If you buy a freezer at Costco then when you get home you find that you can only use the bottom two shelves for stuff you get from Safeway or elsewhere it's going to be quite a surprise.  You just don''t expect that.  Yes, as the people who defend Costco point out, you can just go get a cheap little freezer and sit it right next to it.  What are you complaining about, anyway?  Duh.  But, really...

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                  As a bit of an outsider (well, I have a Nook Simple Touch, but not a Nook Tablet) I've been reading reviews of both this and the Kindle Fire, as well as the comments that go along with it, and even just general talk in various forums.  And almost everywhere I look, the big thing that knocks down the NT is that it *really* only has 1gb of usable space while the Fire has 8gb of free space.  People ARE choosing the Kindle Fire over the Nook Touch BECAUSE of the space issue, despite the fact that you can easily slip in a card.  As one person I saw said, "I don't want to deal with cards."  BN made a major mistake here.  The Nook Touch had a real chance... until they made that stupid decision.  As leftfoot said, you can't even fit an entire movie in that space.  What in the world were they thinking?!

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                      Mark_OB1

                      _the_ wrote:

                       

                      > And almost everywhere I look, the big thing that knocks down the NT <

                       

                      Yes, as predicted, the media are having a field day with this.

                       

                      > is that it *really* only has 1gb of usable space <

                       

                      Well, 1G of unfettered space, for anything you'd like.  However, the 12G for purchased content isn't exactly chopped liver.  :smileyhappy:

                       

                      > while the Fire has 8gb of free space. <

                       

                      But it does NOT.  That 8G includes all the system space.  Only ~6G are still left over, but users can do anything with it they like.  It's still not 8G, though many writers criticizing the NT somehow manage to overlook that fact.

                       

                      > People ARE choosing the Kindle Fire over the Nook Touch BECAUSE of the space issue, despite the fact that you can easily slip in a card. <

                       

                      Based on lots of commentary I'm reading, that does seem to be a significant differentiator.

                       

                      > As one person I saw said, "I don't want to deal with cards." <

                       

                      I could understand that, if the emphasis is on cards (plural).  It's not very convenient to swap them in and out frequently, based on their location recessed behind the hook.  However, if you buy a big enough card to last you a while (pick 8, 16, or 32G as fits your needs), all of it is freely available, and you don't have to "deal with cards" after that.  You just have a ****load of extra local storage space, that isn't an option in any way on the KF, even if you wanted to pay extra for it.

                       

                      > BN made a major mistake here. <

                       

                      I think they made a mistake too, though I'm less certain of the magnitude.  We'll just have to wait and see.

                       

                      - Mark

                       

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                        kamas716

                        _the_ wrote:

                         People ARE choosing the Kindle Fire over the Nook Touch BECAUSE of the space issue, despite the fact that you can easily slip in a card.  As one person I saw said, "I don't want to deal with cards."  BN made a major mistake here.  The Nook Touch had a real chance... until they made that stupid decision.  As leftfoot said, you can't even fit an entire movie in that space.  What in the world were they thinking?!



                        The "Nook Touch" and in the Nook Simple Touch?  Or did you mean the Nook Tablet?  Because the NST isn't really similar to the Kindle Fire.  And, if someone doesn't want to load a memory card to their Nook because it's too much of a hassle, they may have more serious problems to deal with than their e-reader (how to fill gas in the car?  or how to load the DVD player? come to mind). 

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                        moose_tracker

                        I guess I don't understand the complants here, since I was told if you don't like the way the Nook is partitioned you can walk into any B&N and ask them to repartion it to how you want to use it.. I heard one person had a issue because the clerk didn't think it could be done, they got another clerk and it was taken care of.

                         

                        But then don't complain if you find you later run out of room on the B&N side of the partition..