21 Replies Latest reply: Jan 4, 2012 4:20 AM by mbratch

    Your Opinions of Page-Turning Effects

      This is an issue I have mixed feelings about.  Previously with the Nook Color firmware, you swiped your finger and the page immediately went to the next page, with no transition visual effect.  Many people have long praised the Nook for Android app, as well as other apps such as Alkido, etc., because you can have a realistic "page turning" visual effect when you're ready to proceed to the next page.  On the recent 1.2 upgrade on the Nook Color, they now allow you to have an animation, where one page scoots off the screen and the new one scoots onto the screen....similar to the Kindle for Android app.  Some people think that's good enough and others want that realistic page-turn animation.

       

      Personally, I set up my Nook for Android app so that it has this realistic page-turning animation,and yeah, it's kind of fun.  But my question is this:  Is it really necessary?  Do you think there's an argument to be made that an animation is a relic of the past and actually hinders the reading experience?  After all, wouldnt reading go faster if you just kept reading, without waiting for the animation to finish?

       

      What do you think?  Is the page-turning animation good and helpful for the reading experience?  Is the "side-to-side" scoot on the stock reader good?  Or should we just move on, give up the antiquated "page turns" and just let the software give us the next page immediately on the screen? 

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          For me, I like to see some kind of animated visual feedback when I pageturn (is that a word now?).  If nothing else, it makes it more obvious when I've turned a page by mistake.

           

          I'm happy with the slide-to-the-side effect on the NC; it feels intuitive enough, since I'm physically swiping my finger across in the same direction to do it, which is nothing like what I do to physically turn a page on a book. 

           

          I've never tried a device with "realistic page turns", so perhaps I don't know what I'm missing.

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            I think realistic page turn effect is as necessary as a thread on the topic!

            :smileytongue:

            Does it slow down the reading process? Yep, .28 seconds per page. For a 800 page novel, that's what, like 220 extra seconds or something close to that? 3 minutes and forty seconds is alot of time to add on to the rest of the week. Let's also consider the extra charge time. It varys from person to person, but I estimate for myself that I can get through 800 pages in roughly 20 hours, or three charges. According to my math(not reliable, but I did use a calculator...) one out of every 327.2727 charges is devoted solely to animated page turn if all you do is read epub.

            My official opinion is that it is great that we can turn it off if we wish, but it sure beats the refresh flash of eInk.

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              BFCoughlin

              I guess it's personal preference, which is why I'm glad I can turn it off.  I prefer the seamless non-effect page change.  To me, it allows the reading to flow and keeps me immersed in the book. 

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                  Schwa

                  I like the slide-to-the-side motion since v1.2 as it gives a visual queue to the page turn that the inital "blinking" did not.  I can see why some people may like the "showy" effects of a full page turn animation, but I don't personally need to see that as I'm engrossed with the words on the page anyways  :smileyhappy:

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                      JinSC

                      I use the page animation in the 1.2 stock OS.  I like it because sometimes at night when I'm reading in bed I inadvertently swipe in the wrong direction and this helps me see that instantly.  The old "flash" to the next page wasn't appealing.  I've seen the animated page turn in the app, and it's ok, but i like the stock because it seems quicker.  Do not like the eink refresher flash at all. 

                       

                      Jeremy

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                    SkipperT

                    I had to give up the animated page turns when it started working backwards.  Turned it off, and now a tap on the right edge always takes me forward. (NC 1.2)

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                      mariel9898

                      It's a battery waster that's not needed.

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                        RoseBaby

                        Is it necessary? No absolutely not.  Neither are actual page breaks if you think about it.  There is no reason that e-readers can't just scroll through the text vertically, set breaks logically at chapter or section ends and do away with pages entirely.  But I LIKE them --- and this is one time that everone is lucky that online posts don't convey verbal tone because that would be something that even my 10 year old daughter in a hissy fit couldn't match.  The android ap animation is what turned me on to the nook in the first place.  It wouldn't have gotten me to buy the device if it didn't suit my wants and needs otherwise but I loved playing with the page corner as I read on my phone.  As long as it is optional I think it would be a good thing to have on the nook device.  I still love my NC without it.

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                          The current "slide" sucks, the actual page-turn effect on my Android device is cool and I'd use that on my Nook Color if they had it.  Just feels good.

                           

                          Why this doesn't work on the Nook Color when it's also an Android device seems silly.

                            • Re: Your Opinions of Page-Turning Effects
                              melouria

                              DCReed wrote:

                              The current "slide" sucks, the actual page-turn effect on my Android device is cool and I'd use that on my Nook Color if they had it.  Just feels good.

                               

                              Why this doesn't work on the Nook Color when it's also an Android device seems silly.


                              My sentiments exactly.  I hate the new "slide page animation".  Most of the time it takes me back a page instead of forward, and it doesn't resemble a page animation at all.  Please B&N give us the Nook App's page-turn effect for our NC.

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                              i personally can't stand the "realistic page turns" - i find it very distracting. What's the point? You know you are on the next page, so...keep reading...

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                                  bobstro

                                  Early on, I liked the "realistic" page turns. Later, I realized it was more to show off to others than for any real personal benefit. I shifted over to using the slide effect in all my reader apps. Only when someone here on the B&N forums pointed it out did I realize why I prefer it: With the slide effect, you can continue reading the last line of one page as you shift to another, making for a better flow. While not as seamless as a vertical scroll, it provides a real benefit to reading while still keeping that "book" feel. (An unbound book with the pages stacked, admittedly.)

                                   

                                  The effect is really noticeable if you use the two-column landscape mode for reading.

                                • Re: Your Opinions of Page-Turning Effects
                                  mbratch

                                  I prefer visual feedback of a page turn. But I'm not fussy about whether it's 'realistic' and I'm not overly bent if I don't have it.

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                                    patgolfneb
                                    I used the page turn animation fot a long time. The navigation slider isn't very precise and when only trying to move a few pages it seems to slow things down. I now have it turned off.
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                                      To me, using page turn effects on an e-reader is like an animal rights activist wearing faux-fur; there's some obvious cognitive dissonance going on somewhere.  

                                      • Re: Your Opinions of Page-Turning Effects
                                        MatthewH
                                        Actually, I rather like the animated page-turn effect, because in landscape mode as I near the end of one two-column spread I can drag the left half of the next one and hold my finger on the screen for a moment. I like having parts of both two-column spreads visible at once while I read across the transition. Then I let go and it finishes the page turn. I used some rare books for my dissertation research; in the 1800s many books would have the first few words of the next two-page spread below the rest of a page, and the last few words from the previous page above the rest of a page, for exactly the same reason.
                                          • Re: Your Opinions of Page-Turning Effects
                                            bobstro

                                            Interesting tidbit about the old books, Matthew. Were they just extra lines at the top/bottom? A sort of "preview" of the next or previous page?

                                             

                                            Reading these comments, I almost wonder if I'm seeing the same thing others are. I'm on a Nook Color running B&N 1.4.1. I have page turn animation enabled.

                                             

                                            • When I drag my finger slowly on the screen, the next page is pulled into view gradually as I move my finger until I release, at which point it snaps into the full display.
                                            • If I do a quick 'flip' action by dragging my finger quicklly 1 or 2 inches, it snaps over immediately, far quicker than any "realistic" page curling effect I've played with on other readers.
                                            • There's nothing 3D about it. It's all flat, with no shading or other pretty effects. Just pages. 

                                            I suppose we could opt to have it "flip" from even-to-odd page transitions and "slide" for odd-to-even!  THAT would be "realistic". The good news is that these are things relatively easily added on once core functionality is achieved.

                                             

                                            Make the reader rock-solid first, then work on the gizmos! Please!

                                             

                                            (For some reason, that last bit appeared over my post in another thread.)