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      • 15. Re: Bye bye Nook - It was nice knowing you while it lasted

        I'm not a huge fan of the decision and definitely not of the implementation with no warning and with *still* no official announcement, just media quoted confirmation of CS agent comments. But, the melodrama is thick.

        • 16. Re: Bye bye Nook - It was nice knowing you while it lasted
          XRaiderV1

          if barnes and noble goes under..I'm jumping to google, android's nice and future proof XD

          • 17. Re: Bye bye Nook - It was nice knowing you while it lasted
            Omnigeek

            Since Nook for Mac hasn't worked for me EVER, I'm at a loss on being able to make my own backup library now.  This will definitely impact my willingness to purchase through BN.

             

            EDIT:  ... and of course once I post this, Nook for Mac mysteriously starts working for the first time since I installed it.  I still don't like their decision or the way it's been implemented and that will still impact my buying decisions in the future.

            • 18. Re: Bye bye Nook - It was nice knowing you while it lasted
              MacMcK1957

              Obviously my bringing it up caused it to suddenly start working.  You're welcome.

              • 19. Re: Bye bye Nook - It was nice knowing you while it lasted

                As a lifelong reader and lover of books I want there to be more options for readers, not less. This is scary and unfortunate. Not just for NOOK readers but for all readers. Readers should have more than 1 option and more than 1 store. I don't want to see NOOK go away and I hope it stays around for a long time. I also do not blame BN because how can David complete with Goliath? Book stores and libraries are disappearing quickly which is also shameless, I don't want NOOK to be next.

                • 20. Re: Bye bye Nook - It was nice knowing you while it lasted
                  Slytheringilr

                  I agree we should be allowed to do whatever we want with the books we PAID for. This to me smacks of a poor attempt by BN to get their customers to go into their stores and buy physical copies of books. I'll be thinking twice before buying another ebook from them now. Who knows how long the PC app will let us download before the bigwigs at BN decide to take that away from us.

                  • 21. Re: Bye bye Nook - It was nice knowing you while it lasted

                    I think this had to do to with some people pretty much admitting on Barnes and Noble's Facebook and Nook's Facebook pages to stripping the DRM off the books, and I am sure some publishers were probably reading those comments and could have warned BN on people stripping the DRM. I bet if they would have let it continue publishers could have easily start removing ebooks from BN's ebook shop. Let's not forget the missing ebook fiasco from amazon a few years ago, besides many governments and publishers are beginning to crack down on ebook piracy in europe right now and even prosecuting, Don't be suprised if it comes stateside next. When people are posting in their facebook forums they are stripping the DRM they are not only incriminating themselves but also admitting to piracy by removing the code, that just my opinion on it. Its like netflix you rent to watch video on netflix you don't actually own it. Wonder if this is the way BN will start going via ebooks?

                    For those worried about your ebook library say BN ever sold nook or nook split from the company I am pretty sure someone will be glad to convert nook customers over. (Kobo which did this with sony)(googlebooks etc) even microsoft the nook name is out there now people know what nook is. The top three in the U.S. is


                    Amazon, IBooks, Nook

                    Don't see nook disappearing like a shadow in the wind anytime soon.

                    • 22. Re: Bye bye Nook - It was nice knowing you while it lasted
                      kamas716

                      Piracy and stripping DRM are separate issues. They are only  really linked in the minds of executives who don't understand that people who are pirating find DRM a minor inconvenience (seconds per book). Most people who are stripping DRM aren't uploading to pirate sites, they are just wanting to be able to use their 'purchases' across platforms.

                      • 23. Re: Bye bye Nook - It was nice knowing you while it lasted

                        I agree but I am thinking this is probably the thinking of some publishers and that is why they are trying to come up with all these multi layers of new DRM and other ways for suppliers to crack down on stripping it, Or one thing I was thinking this could be a temporary thing and might come back with the launch of the new website next year.

                        • 24. Re: Bye bye Nook - It was nice knowing you while it lasted
                          keriflur

                          gabourele wrote:

                           

                          I agree but I am thinking this is probably the thinking of some publishers and that is why they are trying to come up with all these multi layers of new DRM and other ways for suppliers to crack down on stripping it, Or one thing I was thinking this could be a temporary thing and might come back with the launch of the new website next year.

                          It's not likely the publishers. They already know the difference between personal use and pirate sites, too well for comfort, in fact. The pubs aren't cracking down on customers, though they are in the habit of shutting down illegal downloads and cutting off the supply to those who post them, and have been doing so for some time now. No, the pubs are gradually moving toward watermarking over traditional DRM, thankfully.

                          • 25. Re: Bye bye Nook - It was nice knowing you while it lasted
                            bobstro

                            It's hardly hysteria just because you still have a means of accessing your ebooks. There are work around if you have the right device, or if you have the right desktop OS. Not everybody that purchased B&N ebooks in good faith is in that position.

                            • 26. Re: Bye bye Nook - It was nice knowing you while it lasted

                              keriflur wrote:

                               

                              gabourele wrote:

                               

                              I agree but I am thinking this is probably the thinking of some publishers and that is why they are trying to come up with all these multi layers of new DRM and other ways for suppliers to crack down on stripping it, Or one thing I was thinking this could be a temporary thing and might come back with the launch of the new website next year.

                              It's not likely the publishers. They already know the difference between personal use and pirate sites, too well for comfort, in fact. The pubs aren't cracking down on customers, though they are in the habit of shutting down illegal downloads and cutting off the supply to those who post them, and have been doing so for some time now. No, the pubs are gradually moving toward watermarking over traditional DRM, thankfully.

                              I disagree.

                               

                              While I have no more information than you, I suspect that the publishers (whether misinformed or not) dislike B&N's social DRM and are putting pressure on B&N to limit (or even eliminate) book sharing.

                              • 27. Re: Bye bye Nook - It was nice knowing you while it lasted

                                bobstro wrote:

                                 

                                It's hardly hysteria just because you still have a means of accessing your ebooks. There are work around if you have the right device, or if you have the right desktop OS. Not everybody that purchased B&N ebooks in good faith is in that position.

                                I agree with this completely.

                                 

                                My response to this was to:

                                 

                                1. Fire up a windows VM on my Mac.
                                2. Install NOOK for PC
                                3. Install DeDRM
                                4. Bulk download and convert my entire B&N library of over 900 books. The process took less than an afternoon.

                                 

                                But not everyone can (or should have to) do that.

                                • 28. Re: Bye bye Nook - It was nice knowing you while it lasted

                                  MAcMck1957, can you get my Nook for PC to work too?  I signed out of it as suggested earlier on this thread and since then, I haven't been able to sign back in.  I deleted and re-downloaded as well, but I still can't sign in. I'm even tried downloading from a different browser and the app simply wont won't let me sign in.  This has been going on for days.

                                  • 29. Re: Bye bye Nook - It was nice knowing you while it lasted
                                    MacMcK1957

                                    Alakazam and abracadabra....

                                     

                                    Have you tried deleting the "My Barnes & Noble" folder from your "My Documents" folder?

                                     

                                    Are you sure you're using the right password?  It's your Barnes & Noble password, not your email password.

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