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      • 30. Re: Why do you prefer NOOK over Kindle?

        I prefer Nook basically because it was my first tablet, kind of, device ever.  I was introduced to the world of e-reading and ever since my reading experience has not what it used to be.  The customer service at the stores is far superior than that online or on the phone.  I am not a big fan of the Dark side, aka, amazon.com, so I decided to stick with the big bookstore. 

         

        I am looking forward to a new e-ink device that will bring a lot of changes to the current products.  I was never satisfied with the NookGlowlight, so I still use my old NST, and sometimes I turn on my N1E 3G and read from it.  I have had the opportunity to use the KPW, and I must admit that it is a phenomenal device, however, it's an amazon product.  I am hoping B&N comes up with something similar to either the KPW or the Auras from Kobo.  It's particularly funny that some of the participants of these forums used to shun this company.  It is not surprising that some of them, myself included, have joined Kobo's ranks. 

         

        I wholeheartedly hope that B&N will revisit the e-ink reader concept soon and will present its customers a more up-to-date e-ink device capable of competing with the current devices in the market.  It's, IMO, one of the best options for survival.

        • 31. Re: Why do you prefer NOOK over Kindle?
          bobstro
          [...] The N1E is touchscreen for commands (it's the one with the two screens, one color), and it's capacitive so you really can't use a bag unless you get one specifically for that.

           

          I actually had better luck with capacitive screens in bags for reading in wet settings than with the IR sensors. The IR sensors registered anything that broke the beam (esp. the bag) as a press, while capacitive required an actual screen press with a finger... at least most of the time. I found my 7 inch cheap Android tablet was the most usable until I picked up the Kobo H2O.

           

          The Kobo uses IR, so they've obviously tuned it to be selective using the same underlying technology. I never would have thought IR would work in a waterproof device.

          • 32. Re: Why do you prefer NOOK over Kindle?
            bobstro

            LectorGS wrote:

            [...] I have had the opportunity to use the KPW, and I must admit that it is a phenomenal device, however, it's an amazon product.  I am hoping B&N comes up with something similar to either the KPW or the Auras from Kobo.  It's particularly funny that some of the participants of these forums used to shun this company.  It is not surprising that some of them, myself included, have joined Kobo's ranks.

            I've been reading comparisons between the Kobo H2O and Kindle Voyage, and I'm surprised that the H2O seems to be holding its own. The screen is apparently as good, and the larger size is a plus. The only "complaints" have been about the use of IR with the recessed bezel versus capacitive touch screen technology, and lack of buttons on the H2O.

             

            The IR and recessed bezel doesn't annoy me. I had a preference for capacitive screens for sticking a device in a waterproof bag, but the H2O renders that point moot. I can't say the shadows from the bezel have ever bothered me. I would like buttons, but can live without them. I'm glad they're suddenly hip again.

             

            I know it'll never happen, but if B&N is looking for a partner to manufacture the next-gen NOOK eink device, they should at least look at what Kobo's doing as a baseline.

            • 33. Re: Why do you prefer NOOK over Kindle?
              keriflur

              The only device that I ever had trouble with bezel shadows on was the Kobo Aura. The screen is capacitive and there is no bezel, but that's just the glass surface - the e-ink actually sits below that, so there is a little bit of shadow. On kepubs this wasn't a problem because they display with a header space, but for epubs the text was right at the top of the screen, and I had to tilt the device to read it because of the shadow.

               

              I think it'd be awesome if Kobo and B&N merged operations, with Kobo making the devices and B&N handling sales and support. It would make sense from a device perspective - Kobo makes great devices but has almost no distribution in the US, and B&N has lots of stores from which it can sell devices and provide in-person support. The rub is when it comes to content. IMO Kobo is pretty incompetent at that too, but I doubt they see it that way.

              • 34. Re: Why do you prefer NOOK over Kindle?
                bobstro

                keriflur wrote:

                [...] I think it'd be awesome if Kobo and B&N merged operations, with Kobo making the devices and B&N handling sales and support. It would make sense from a device perspective - Kobo makes great devices but has almost no distribution in the US, and B&N has lots of stores from which it can sell devices and provide in-person support. The rub is when it comes to content. IMO Kobo is pretty incompetent at that too, but I doubt they see it that way.

                Kobo does do the "affiliate" thing where a bookstore can set some branding and a configuration setting on a device to get credit (of some sort) when a customer later buys ebooks on a Kobo. I sure don't see B&N jumping at that, but I agree, it would be an awesome pairing.

                 

                What's really interesting is that Kobo seems to have successfully raised the bar for "premium" eink device pricing. While I know FT likes to deride the Kobo Aura HD as a flop, its legacy lives on. Part of that is it reset consumer expectations, offering a premium device for far more than had been the previous trend. I don't think it's an accident that Amazon is suddenly releasing $200+ premium readers. This, I think, does validate the point that consumers who own eink devices are willing to pay a bit more, both for volume of content and quality of device experience.

                 

                Perhaps B&N can re-enter the eink arena with their own premium device. Assuming it actually offers premium features, it might be more profitable for them. They do need to get the features right, and finally fix those long-standing annoyances.

                • 35. Re: Why do you prefer NOOK over Kindle?
                  keriflur

                  Bob George wrote:

                  Perhaps B&N can re-enter the eink arena with their own premium device. Assuming it actually offers premium features, it might be more profitable for them. They do need to get the features right, and finally fix those long-standing annoyances.

                  IMO this is where the market is going. The e-ink advances are moving slower, and improvements aren't coming down in price fast enough to offer top-level devices for $99. Yet companies have been searching for ways to get folks who already own devices to part with them, to spend more $$ on the latest and greatest. And consumers now know that they can keep a device for many years, so it's okay to spend a little more. So you end up with two tiers - the entry-level device and the premium device. B&N has a great entry-level device in the NGL. But if they want to keep the e-ink market share they have, they're going to need to offer a premium device.

                  • 36. Re: Why do you prefer NOOK over Kindle?

                    A new, high quality, and extremely competitive e-ink device would bring B&N back to e-readers arena. The most recent device, the Glowlight, was a sad attempt to compete.The KPW and the Voyager have tempted a lot of non-e-ink believers who may start reading using these devices. Amazon does not have physical stores which renders having an idea of what the actual devices look like in person impossible. You either watch their videos or go to a store that may have a display of amazon's devices.

                     

                    B&N has the stores.  Displaying this new e-ink device is a more palatable experience for those who have been contemplating the idea of transitioning from physical books to e-books.  This would be a great moment to reconquer some of the e-book market that has been lost to the competitors. 

                    • 37. Re: Why do you prefer NOOK over Kindle?
                      Mercury_Glitch

                      I keep hoping a new eink device will be launched, I do not see that happening this year, the holidays are too close and we've seen no real hints anywhere about B&N releasing one.

                       

                      When they do come out with  a new eink device it's going to have some pretty hefty copetition to beat with the Aura HD, Aura H20, and the Voyager.

                       

                      Personally I'm not interested in going back to a smaller screen now that I've experienced 6.8", I can live without the font and margin manipulation Kobo offers, though I'd rather not give these features up.

                      • 38. Re: Why do you prefer NOOK over Kindle?
                        keriflur

                        I'm happy with the 6" screen. I do hope they go lighter in weight, but not smaller than the NGL - with the Aura, which has a smaller bezel, I found myself accidentally turning pages. Lighter, and possibly thinner, means longer reading with one hand without having to brace it on anything. But ultimately, for me to come back, they need to get the lighting and the screen right. If it's not as good as my KPW, I won't buy it. For me, the screen makes the reading experience.

                        • 39. Re: Why do you prefer NOOK over Kindle?
                          Mercury_Glitch

                          Perhaps they can launch two proper lines of ereaders, the premium and the entry. 

                           

                          Premium - 6.8" carta eink (or whatever is the crispest at the time the device is made), 8gb storage, sd card slot, glowlight, allows for sideloaded fonts, have it available in black and in white (open to more suggestions for features)

                           

                          Entry - 6" carta screen, 6gb storage (but totally open to user loaded ebooks), glowlight.

                           

                          No SD card, but the 6gb of space should, if unhindered, satisfy most of the entry folks.

                          • 40. Re: Why do you prefer NOOK over Kindle?
                            bobstro

                            It could happen. Netronix, the OEM for the Kobo devices from what I understand, has some very interesting new products, including a 6.8 inch eink Android 4 device with a Wacom digitizer and 1440x1080 screen resolution. They're looking for customers to customize the build. The video also briefly shows a 13.3 inch display they produce. Now we just need B&N to want it to happen! (The interviewer is a bit goofy, unfortunately.)

                            • 41. Re: Why do you prefer NOOK over Kindle?

                              IMO, the best option for B&N would be to adopt the Kobo model.  It would be something similar to what Mercury proposed along with a better Nook app for iOS and Android.  The current Nook app is not very impressive.  If the company has enough money in its coffers, then an aggressive PR on TV and other media would help considerably. 

                              • 42. Re: Why do you prefer NOOK over Kindle?
                                bobstro

                                The sad thing is, the NGTS app suite could be made available to any Android tablet. If they made some basic fixes (support media on secondary storage, support sideloaded ebook metadata on secondary storage) , it'd be quite nice.

                                 

                                I wasn't aware of Netronix before. Hopefully, someone from B&N is tracking their offerings.

                                • 43. Re: Why do you prefer NOOK over Kindle?
                                  MacMcK1957

                                  Bob George wrote:

                                   

                                  The sad thing is, the NGTS app suite could be made available to any Android tablet. If they made some basic fixes (support media on secondary storage, support sideloaded ebook metadata on secondary storage) , it'd be quite nice.

                                   

                                  I wasn't aware of Netronix before. Hopefully, someone from B&N is tracking their offerings.

                                  Now that you mention it, where do you put sideloaded ebooks on the secondary storage?  I've been playing around with different configurations and have not managed to get epubs on the SD card to show in my Nook library.  (I know the covers will be blank; I can live with that.)

                                  • 44. Re: Why do you prefer NOOK over Kindle?
                                    bobstro

                                    I no longer have my NGTS to verify, but I recall it was under NOOK/MyFiles on the external card. I think I just copied over the NOOK folder structure from internal storage.

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