11 Replies Latest reply on Jul 6, 2013 9:00 PM by keriflur

    reduced prices !!.. ???? will they support their current devices or NOT ???

      REDUCED PRICES  we are being flushed down the toilet for sure !!  

       

       

       

      "There were signs that Barnes & Noble was seeking to exit the hardware business. This month, the company slashed prices on its Nook readers, leading some to suggest that it was clearing out its stock of tablets.

      On Tuesday, the company said it planned to sell its remaining inventory at the reduced prices. ""S

       

       

       

      "We know this is a sizable change from our existing strategy," CEO William Lynch said in a call with analysts. He declined to give specifics on how the tablet partnership would work because the company is in discussions with "a lot of interested parties."

      The about-face troubled investors, who sent Barnes & Noble's stock price down more than 17 percent Tuesday to close at $15.61.

        • Re: reduced prices !!.. ???? will they support their current devices or NOT ???
          Doreenpv

          I have no idea what they plan on doing. All I know is that I own 5 devices and was a faithful customer.

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            yocalif

            There is nothing to worry about, the nook color & tablet have received their final updates, in 6-9 months the same for nook hd/hd+ unless 2.1 is last update.  All of the tablets can be rooted and continue providing use for several years.  The average life span for this type of digital device is 2 years, by then the lastest, hottest new technology is out and most will upgrade.

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              DOGandHORSE-Mom

              I still have my original Nook from late in 2009 and just got a HD+...  I enjoy them both...  There are plenty of eBooks out there from other sources, the eInk on my Nook first edition is fabulous, and the HD+ can do so much out of the box.

               

              I would have never gotten an HD+ until the price was dropped and am happy I did!

               

              Rooting or N2A cards are other options to play around with (IMO).

              • Re: reduced prices !!.. ???? will they support their current devices or NOT ???
                thans56
                So what about all the books we currently own? If BN leaves he market will we still have access to them and if so, how?
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                    NookGardener

                    According to any of the book sellers, you dont "own" any of these books. You have a "license" to read them (See the terms of service for ALL vendors.)

                     

                    Download Nook for PC or Nook Study to a pc. Sign into your account. Download a copy of your purchased books as a backup. Keep a note of your cc# if you change it on your account (even if the cc # is stolen, its still the unlock key to opening up your books in other ereader apps.) Backing up computer purchases is just good computer practice.

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                        mbratch

                        NookGardener wrote:

                        According to any of the book sellers, you dont "own" any of these books. You have a "license" to read them (See the terms of service for ALL vendors.)


                        And just to underscore, this is and has always been true for all media types, hardcopy or electronic. The content is owned by the publisher, which is why they have rules about copying and distributing, etc. It's just that in the electronic world, users seem to have taken on the notion that if it's easier to obtain and it's just a bunch of bits, that must imply ownership.

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                            keriflur

                            mbratch wrote:

                            NookGardener wrote:

                            According to any of the book sellers, you dont "own" any of these books. You have a "license" to read them (See the terms of service for ALL vendors.)


                            And just to underscore, this is and has always been true for all media types, hardcopy or electronic. The content is owned by the publisher, which is why they have rules about copying and distributing, etc. It's just that in the electronic world, users seem to have taken on the notion that if it's easier to obtain and it's just a bunch of bits, that must imply ownership.


                            Actually, it's not the same.  When you buy a hardcopy book, you own the copy, just not the text within the copy.  You can sell the copy, give the copy away, keep it wherever you like, etc.  With electronic media, you don't own your copy, you only own the license to read it - you cannot sell or give away your copy, and restrictions may exist relating to how many devices you can read the copy on, etc.

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                                mbratch

                                keriflur wrote:

                                mbratch wrote:

                                NookGardener wrote:

                                According to any of the book sellers, you dont "own" any of these books. You have a "license" to read them (See the terms of service for ALL vendors.)


                                And just to underscore, this is and has always been true for all media types, hardcopy or electronic. The content is owned by the publisher, which is why they have rules about copying and distributing, etc. It's just that in the electronic world, users seem to have taken on the notion that if it's easier to obtain and it's just a bunch of bits, that must imply ownership.


                                Actually, it's not the same.  When you buy a hardcopy book, you own the copy, just not the text within the copy.  You can sell the copy, give the copy away, keep it wherever you like, etc.  With electronic media, you don't own your copy, you only own the license to read it - you cannot sell or give away your copy, and restrictions may exist relating to how many devices you can read the copy on, etc.


                                Owning the material of the paper that the text is printed on is a technicality. Sure, paper is different than bits. And the bit world attempts to behave similarly (e.g., the Nook "loaning" concept by B&N). My point was that the issue of content ownership is the same.

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                          BookloverUT

                          Just spoke to the manager of my local B&N store and they insist they are going to continue selling all of the Nooks but they will be built by another company. Again, B&N will continue selling them, and they will continue to support products sold. They will also continue selling e-books and apps.

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                            mbratch

                            I bought the Nook Color when it first came out. Then recently bought the Nook HD (I just couldn't pass up on the $129 price tag). My wife owns a Kindle Fire (original).

                             

                            My wife has Nook Color envy. The Nook Color family has always provided nice software features to allow a reader to organize their books. Kindle Fire took away the "collections" feature they had on their original Kindle and all you get are a big, fat shelf you can order by title or author. It's not really a reader-friendly platform.

                             

                            After seeing what B&N did on the Nook HD, it appears to me that they did respond to a number of the outcries from the earlier version. They provided more access to general Android features, etc. In addition, they've somewhat enhanced their book organization features. (A side note: I'm surprised they don't have some of these features in their stand-alone app).

                             

                            The funny part is that I showed my wife how I could run a Kindle Reader app on my Nook HD and it looks essentially just like her Kindle with all the same reading features (which isn't much). If the app could somehow cross the bridge into Nook land and provide those book organizing features, she'd have headed to the B&N that minute and bought Nook HD on the spot. But, alas, the Kindle books are isolated in their own, proprietary world and that's the world she has invested in. We looked at programs that could be used to convert the Kindle books to epub that all looked quite tedious.

                             

                            So besides perhaps a front facing camera on a Kindle (to cater more to the general tablet market), to me the B&N Nook HD is a much superior product, especially for the price. It's a shame that B&N hasn't been able to capitalize on it more than they have. A couple of observations are: (1) when the Nook Color first came out, before there was a Kindle Fire, there was very little press about it and then when Kindle Fire came out, that seems to be all I heard about on TV or in technical press, and (2) B&N has spent all their comparison charts on general tablet features and has ignored the reader-friendly features that, IMHO, are part of what makes their product best, and (3) the B&N reader is a bit more open in terms of standards, being more epub based, versus the Kindle which is more closed.

                             

                            I think my Nook products are great and I have no desire for the Kindle Fire after seeing it in operation first hand.

                             

                            Oh did I mention that every now and then I'm helping my wife get her Kindle Fire unfrozen after it hangs? And the KF browser makes a nasty jumble of some websites that the NHD has no problems with.