4 Replies Latest reply: Dec 4, 2014 8:46 AM by bobstro

    Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 7.0 Nook vs. Nook Color

    AnitaInTN

      My original (and only other) Nook was the venerable NC....I held out until color happened.  I really like book cover art, and so the black and white e-ink only readers are just not for me.  My NC battery is not holding charge as well as it once did....not gone, but it was an excuse to look at nicer screens.  Oh, and real Android tablets. 

       

      I keep mixing up the initials for the Glow vs. Samsung....NGTS?  Sammie Nook7:

       

      Pros:

      • The screen is wonderful.  Definitely an improvement vs. a NC.  I understand it is not as good as the HD screen, but it is much better than what I am used to.  I am happy with it.
      • It is a real Android tablet - I can finally get the benefit of Calibre library management, on my device!!! (Major plus)
      • Calibre Companion (Yee!  Hah!)
      • A good e-reader.  It does what I want, but I have not tried others, so I cannot really say it is better or not.
      • Lovely renditions of National Geographic magazine and photography.  Color!!! YES!!!
      • "Footprint" -  about the size of a paperback book.  The bigger (10) is too big and doesn't handle or pack for travel as conveniently as the 7inch version.
      • It has a microSD card - tho that is not as easy to use as you might think.  (The restrictions here are mainly Android - beware.)  Yes, a 64G card works even tho they only rate it at 32G.
      • There is a very convenient box to check to send video straight to the microSD card.  See "Nook Settings"
      • My NC had a bad habit of autoclouding my National Geographic magazines.  My SammieNook7 has never autoclouded anything.  Probably a memory issue with the NC.  (First time one autoclouds a book - seriously bad.  I keep an eye on available memory.)

       

      Cons:

      • MEMORY.  8G starting, of which bloatware occupies 3.28G.  Puhhhleeeze.  This is a serious flaw, especially since the Nook library (books, anyway) cannot be stored on the memory card.  See extensive rant on memory hereSamsung Galaxy Tab 4 7.0 Nook - Memory Meanderings.
      • There is no convenient box to check to send magazines to the microSD card, tho there is some evidence of a file structure that might allow this.
      • There is no convenient box to check to send books to the microSD card.  And likely never will be.
      • BN is getting all paranoid and greatly restricting how its e-books can be managed - restricting sideloading of Nook books, the Nook App WILL NOT see covers on sideloaded books from other sources, etc.  This is extremely annoying.  See "true tablet", "other Apps", and "Calibre Companion".
      • The shelf (library) management is no different, at all, than what I have on my NC.  Seriously, BN?  How many generations, and no improvement, whatsoever, in the reader's experience?  See "Calibre" and "Calibre Companion".  I give up on BN library mgt - I am putting all my efforts into organizing with Calibre and not bothering with BN shelves on my Sammie Nook7.

       

      Things I utterly don't care about and so have not evaluated (you may, so I mention them).  All I want is a color e-reader.

      • Cameras, either one.
      • e-mail, social media, yadda yadda.  I don't want alarms, alerts, notices, blah blah blah.  (This is what my phone is for.) I want to read on my Nook.
      • video.  Ok - I did finally download a free Friday TV show (pilot of White Collar) just to see it work, but....teensy screen.  I just don't see me using this much.  Maybe I'll send it to my TV (with a real screen) someday.
      • audio - again, teensy speakers.  Why bother?  If I want music, I will use something with real speakers.  My audiobooks are elsewhere; Sammie Nook7 is too big and won't talk to my car, anyway.  Yes, it needs basic audio (for that video and the occasional sound effect for page turn, etc.), but this is no aural instrument (I don't expect it to be).
      • Apps other than Calibre Companion

       

      General thoughts....

      • Best e-reader (vs. Sammie Nook10, Kobo, Kindle, etc.)?
        • Not really.  Just the last one standing. (Kobo - no local availability or even online for the 32G color tablet; Kindle - not quite ready to go "A" just yet. The SammieNook10 has too big a footprint.)
        • I like the read-in-store options and the book-in-reading-now icon on the home page (vs. the Nook App on a generic Android device).  Overall, I am comfortable in the Nook device realm (for now...if BN doesn't blow it with their eruption of paranoia).
        • For my sort of reading, the Sammie Nook7 is a good choice at a good price and a good footprint.
      • Local store support definitely a plus.  I like going to the store.  The big "A" will never have a decent mocha latte.
      • NC status - backup device.  Maintaining, but usage way down.  Hopefully it will stay with me awhile longer.
        • Re: Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 7.0 Nook vs. Nook Color
          bobstro

          Great posts, Anita. A few notes...

          AnitaInTN wrote:

           

          My original (and only other) Nook was the venerable NC....I held out until color happened.  I really like book cover art, and so the black and white e-ink only readers are just not for me.  My NC battery is not holding charge as well as it once did....not gone, but it was an excuse to look at nicer screens.  Oh, and real Android tablets. 

           

          I keep mixing up the initials for the Glow vs. Samsung....NGTS?  Sammie Nook7:

           

          I think the convention is more-or-less NOOK Simple Touch = NST, NOOK Simple Touch Glow = NSTG, Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 NOOK = NGTS (per B&N's site), though I prefer SGT4N.

          Pros:

          • The screen is wonderful.  Definitely an improvement vs. a NC.  I understand it is not as good as the HD screen, but it is much better than what I am used to.  I am happy with it.

           

          It's definitely a lower resolution than the HD/+. I view the NGTS as an entry level device, not necessarily one meant as an upgrade to the HD/+. What sets is apart from the myriad cheap 7 inch Android tablets is that Samsung makes really nice screens. The NGTS doesn't use Samsung's best screen technology, but it still looks very bright and vibrant.

           

          • A good e-reader.  It does what I want, but I have not tried others, so I cannot really say it is better or not.

           

          It's a worthy successor to the NC/NT line. A cheap, capable device well suited to reading and capable of doing more when needed. It's not a high-end device, and was never meant to be one. That's what I liked about it.

           

          • "Footprint" -  about the size of a paperback book.  The bigger (10) is too big and doesn't handle or pack for travel as conveniently as the 7inch version.

           

          I was very impressed with the NGTS even compared to my (older) 7 inch Hisense Sero Pro 7 inch. The newer NGTS seemed much smaller, even though the screen size was the same and the resolution higher. I like the 7 inch form factor. I think daring to challenge Apple with a smaller tablet screen was one of the best gambles Samsung made, along with challenging Apple on larger phone sizes.

           

          • It has a microSD card - tho that is not as easy to use as you might think.  (The restrictions here are mainly Android - beware.)  Yes, a 64G card works even tho they only rate it at 32G.
          • There is a very convenient box to check to send video straight to the microSD card.  See "Nook Settings"

           

          Samsung offers some enhancements to the Android 4.4 KitKat offering from other manufacturers that allows sending some apps to secondary (card) storage, which is a big plus on an 8 GB device.

           

          • MEMORY.  8G starting, of which bloatware occupies 3.28G.  Puhhhleeeze.  This is a serious flaw, especially since the Nook library (books, anyway) cannot be stored on the memory card.  See extensive rant on memory hereSamsung Galaxy Tab 4 7.0 Nook - Memory Meanderings.

           

          More is always better, but again, Samsung offers up some enhancements to alleviate this. I have been surprised with just how much "stuff" I have been able to fit into my 8 GB tablet. It's not my main workhorse, but for most "on a plane" or "lounging" activities, it holds all that I need. I've even got a couple of heavy games loaded, and still have space. They key (hint to B&N) is apps that allow content to be stored on secondary storage.

           

          • There is no convenient box to check to send magazines to the microSD card, tho there is some evidence of a file structure that might allow this.
          • There is no convenient box to check to send books to the microSD card.  And likely never will be.

           

          As you've noted, B&N was aware of the card for video storage, but sadly ignores it for ebook and (currently, at least) magazine storage. This makes the 8 GB back into a huge issue, even if Samsung offers work-arounds.

           

          • BN is getting all paranoid and greatly restricting how its e-books can be managed - restricting sideloading of Nook books, the Nook App WILL NOT see covers on sideloaded books from other sources, etc.  This is extremely annoying.  See "true tablet", "other Apps", and "Calibre Companion".

           

          Yeah, that's a big, stinky and hard to overlook turd in the B&N basket. While the NGTS is a nice device for reading B&N content on, B&N content is now no longer near as attractive as it was when the NGTS was released.

           

          • The shelf (library) management is no different, at all, than what I have on my NC.  Seriously, BN?  How many generations, and no improvement, whatsoever, in the reader's experience?  See "Calibre" and "Calibre Companion".  I give up on BN library mgt - I am putting all my efforts into organizing with Calibre and not bothering with BN shelves on my Sammie Nook7.

           

          And how sad that they've made restricting how paying customers access their content more of a priority!

           

          Things I utterly don't care about and so have not evaluated (you may, so I mention them).  All I want is a color e-reader.

          • Cameras, either one.

           

          I certainly wouldn't use a tablet for serious photography, but I do find tablet cameras useful for capturing whiteboards or other written notes, and for scanning barcodes. And they're there if you want to Skype with family members and such.

           

          • e-mail, social media, yadda yadda.  I don't want alarms, alerts, notices, blah blah blah.  (This is what my phone is for.) I want to read on my Nook.

           

          It is possible to make the NGTS nearly silent. The default settings for notifications drove me nuts on every one of my Samsung Android devices, especially the stupid whistle!

           

          • video.  Ok - I did finally download a free Friday TV show (pilot of White Collar) just to see it work, but....teensy screen.  I just don't see me using this much.  Maybe I'll send it to my TV (with a real screen) someday.

           

          The NGTS is great when coupled with a Google Chromecast! Put the Chromecast on your TV, and "cast" video from HBO Go, Netflix or many other apps to the big screen. For anybody on the road frequently, a small tablet with the ability to watch on the big screen is a real plus. Sadly, NHL Gamecenter doesn't support Chromecast, so I can't watch my Bruins play this way.

           

          • audio - again, teensy speakers.  Why bother?  If I want music, I will use something with real speakers.  My audiobooks are elsewhere; Sammie Nook7 is too big and won't talk to my car, anyway.  Yes, it needs basic audio (for that video and the occasional sound effect for page turn, etc.), but this is no aural instrument (I don't expect it to be).

           

          I fly frequently, and there's nothing quite like somebody watching a movie without headphones to drive you nuts. If I'm listening to anything other than the occasional beep on my tablet, I plug in headphones. At that point, the NGTS sounds about as good as any high-end tablet.

           

          General thoughts....

          • Best e-reader (vs. Sammie Nook10, Kobo, Kindle, etc.)?
            • Not really.  Just the last one standing. (Kobo - no local availability or even online for the 32G color tablet; Kindle - not quite ready to go "A" just yet. The SammieNook10 has too big a footprint.)

           

          Kobo's not really in the color device market anymore. They are putting out some nice eink devices though. I wouldn't call the NGTS the "best", but certainly "very capable and affordable".

           

          • I like the read-in-store options and the book-in-reading-now icon on the home page (vs. the Nook App on a generic Android device).  Overall, I am comfortable in the Nook device realm (for now...if BN doesn't blow it with their eruption of paranoia).
          • For my sort of reading, the Sammie Nook7 is a good choice at a good price and a good footprint.
          • Local store support definitely a plus.  I like going to the store.  The big "A" will never have a decent mocha latte.

           

          The in-store features were what prompted me to buy my NGTS when they came out. Sadly, the storage issue broke the deal for me. I'll certainly reconsider when/if B&N addresses the basic software issues.

           

          • NC status - backup device.  Maintaining, but usage way down.  Hopefully it will stay with me awhile longer.

          I've got a couple of NC and an NT in the same role. I can probably ship you a usable NC if you PM me.

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            • Re: Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 7.0 Nook vs. Nook Color
              AnitaInTN

              Thanks, Bob - some good feedback.  I'll have to check out the Chromecast angle.  Might be nice traveling.

               

              My NC is doing ok as a storage device - I wake it up a couple times a week to check that the charge is ok and take it out to play every couple of weeks (to add any new books I buy).  It's holding its own.  The NGTS7 is the e-reader workhorse now, getting most of the heavy charging/discharging.  I try to stay 20%-80% of full charge to lengthen the battery life.

            • Re: Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 7.0 Nook vs. Nook Color
              EB613

              Thanks for your pros/cons! I had a NOOK Tablet and since I sold it, I wanted another 7" tablet. I agree with Bobstro--I like SGT4N as the acronym--it makes more sense.

                • Re: Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 7.0 Nook vs. Nook Color
                  bobstro

                  Mashable has a nice review on the NGTS that I mostly agree with:

                  ...  It’s hard to look at the Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 Nook and not think of it as a sort of surrender. Barnes & Noble gave the hardware and tablet business a better-than-college try, often pushing technology boundaries to some acclaim, but little notice. Its newest tablet is really just a middle-of-the-road, multi-function tablet with a very affordable price tag.

                   

                  And perhaps that’s good enough.

                  Now that you can get a $30 credit for an old NC/NT or N1E against the purchase of a new NGTS, it's a bit more attractive, at least until mid-January 2015.