11 Replies Latest reply on Dec 8, 2014 10:41 AM by MacMcK1957

    Where to but the Samsung Galaxy Tab

    BFCoughlin

      What, if any, is the advantage of buying the Galaxy Tab 7" tablet from B&N?  I'm not including the supposed $200 of content, because I've seen what it is, and it's pretty worthless to me.  We've been Nook people all along.  Most of my books are Nook Books.  I don't have Calibre and I don't have independent epubs. I do have the Kindle app on my (rapidly fading) NC and on my HD+ for books that are only available in that format.  I don't need B&N to help me set up a new device, and I'm pretty competent for routine stuff.   I like B&N and I want to support them.  Is there any advantage or disadvantage to buying it from B&N as opposed to, say, Best Buy or PC Richards? Better integration with my Nook library? (I know I can download the Nook app on the other device.)  Support? Warranty?

        • Re: Where to but the Samsung Galaxy Tab
          bobstro

          You get the custom NOOK apps but that's about it. If you buy a regular Samsung Galaxy Tab elsewhere, you do get the Samsung Perks package if you register, which is probably worth more (tough not much more).

           

          The NGTS is literally nothing more than a Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 7.0 with a few NOOK apps and enhancements. There's not a huge difference. It's actually a very nice little Samsung, and would be great for reading if B&N hadn't crippled it by not allowing ebooks and magazines to be stored on a uSD card like they do movies. If you have a smallish (<3 GB) collection of B&N content, it might be just fine.

           

          All that said, if you have an HD+ and are happy with it, I wouldn't jump to the NGTS. It's more of a starter device, not an upgrade from the older series.

           

          So to answer your question: In your case, there's no real advantage to buying the NGTS, from B&N or elsewhere. You might be happier with a larger, more capable Samsung or other tablet.

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            Sandikal

            The new Samsung Nook has only 8 Gigs of storage.  From what I've heard, the Android OS and the Nook interface take up a huge amount of that real estate, not leaving much room for content.  You can add up to 32 Gigs of storage with a micro-SD card, but I think that any books and magazines you get go into internal storage.  The reviews I've read have said that the performance is pretty poor because it's so bloated.

             

            I have the Nook HD now that I'm trying to get replaced under the extended warranty.  They haven't had any stock in the 2 months that I've been trying.  Does anyone know if the Samsung's Android OS will be updated by Samsung or by Barnes and Noble?  I've had two Nooks and my experience is that Barnes and Noble tend to push updates for a few months, then nothing.  My Nook HD is operating on a seriously outdated version of Android right now.

             

            When it's time for a new tablet, I plan to get a Samsung Galaxy Tab--not the Nook branded one. I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 that I love.  It hasn't given me any trouble in 1-1/2 years.  The battery life is starting to get shorter, but I can replace it.  The tablet doesn't have a replaceable battery, but I'm okay with that.  I don't see any practical reason to go with the Nook-branded Galaxy Tab.

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                luvbooksCM

                I, too, am looking for a replacement for my unstable Nook HD. The only advantage that I can see of having the B&N Samsung Nook is that you have access to any freebies as far as apps go that B&N offers on free Fridays, so essentially you have easy access to 3 different sources....B&N, Google Play & Samsung.

                 

                Unless I'm wrong, on a non-Nook Samsung device, you have access to Google Play & Samsung but you wouldn't be able to put any B&N apps on the device. I think you can still put B&N video content on it using the B&N video app (at least you can with IOS products), and of course you can put B&N books on it using the Nook app, but that might not be enough of an advantage to sway you towards buying the Nook version.

                 

                What I find I'm wrestling with is if the apps I purchased through B&N in the early days of owning my Nook HD is worth giving up if I go to a non-nook device. Everything else I purchased through B&N would transfer.

                 

                Another advantage of getting a non-Nook Samsung device is that you can download the Amazon app store & I believe the Amazon Instant video if you are a Prime member. Amazon has directions on how to do this on their site. This would give you access to any freebie apps that AMZ puts out as well as being able to view your Prime content. I don't know if you can do that with the Samsung Nook. I would be interested in hearing from anyone who might know the answer to that question.

                 

                And then there is the biggest drawback....only 8GB. My 8GB Nook HD is almost at capacity, so I really would like something with at least 16GB.

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                    luvbooksCM

                    Just another thought - I was in Best Buy this weekend looking at the Samsung S 8.4 (veeeery nice tablet)....and the Samsung rep was telling me that they would be glad to help out with any questions regarding the tablets, even after purchase and even if it wasn't purchased from BB. He also told me they would assist in answering any questions/troubleshooting if I purchased the Sammie Nook from B&N. He also mentioned they provide free tutorial sessions for folks who need it to learn how to use their tablets. It's nice to know that if I purchased a Non-Nook Samsung, that there are folks accessible to answer questions or troubleshoot any problems that might arise.

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                        MacMcK1957

                        I'm not aware of any apps that you can load on the vanilla Samsung device that you can't install on the B&N version.  If you're interested in that device (i.e. you don't mind the 8 GB limitation) I don't know of any reason not to buy it from B&N if they're offering one of the deals that makes it cheaper.

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                            luvbooksCM

                            MacMck1957,

                            That's good information to know that I might be able to install outside apps to the B&N nook device. Next time I'm in the store, I'll have to check the settings to see if I have the option to allow apps from unknown sources.

                            I'm also concerned about the other way around. I wouldn't be able to put the apps I purchased from B&N on the regular Samsung device, that's where part of my waffling comes in. It's possible I can find a free version from Google Play store so I don't have to repurchase them, but I haven't gotten that far in my research. I think if the B&N device had 16gb, I wouldn't hesitate, especially now since it appears to be on sale. I've never used an SD card, so that's another avenue I need to consider/explore. I'm not sure how you would designate which items go to SD card and which go to internal memory, or if the SD card is strictly side-loaded material. Perhaps if I understood how to use the sd card, it would make my decision easier.  Then again, I played with the Samsung S series at BB and I might have spoiled myself for that device being so thin & pretty screen that I can't fairly evaluate another one. Tough choices! They are all good tablets so I doubt I will regret my decision regardless of which way I go. I just need to keep playing with them in the stores until I decide.

                              • Re: Where to but the Samsung Galaxy Tab
                                MacMcK1957

                                I've loaded a number of external apps on my NGTS, including Amazon reader, Netflix, Chromecast, Hulu, Facebook, Google Play Music (which lets me store all my tunes on the SD card) a bunch of games.  To the best of my knowledge, it's a fully functional Samsung tablet that just happens to have the souped-up Nook app pre-installed.

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                                  AnitaInTN

                                  Agreed.  The SGT4N's (7 and 10 version) are Samsung hardware with a "hi test" Nook App.  You can install any std Android App on them.  I don't know whether some of the old B&N specific apps will work.  You can always try them. 

                                   

                                  FYI - you can put a 64G card on the SGT4N-7 (I have).  Short form:

                                  • Easy check box to put BN video on card (in Nook Settings for Video)
                                  • No easy check boxes for either BN magazines or BN books.  Some evidence that maybe magazines might get a box someday (file structure created on card by Nook App).
                                  • You can put any other content on the card that Android allows, including side loading other content (non-BN).
                                  • Remember, starting with Android Kit-Kat (4.4?) - an Android App can only access its own data folder and ONLY its own data folder.  This means, for instance, that the Nook App and the Calibre Companion App cannot and will not access the same folder.  (This is not BN being snooty - this is an Android restriction, at least under the version currently on SGT4Ns.)

                                   

                                  Here's a comparison I did that also has a link to my experiments with the internal memory for the SGT4N-7.  Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 7.0 Nook vs. Nook Color

                                    • Re: Where to but the Samsung Galaxy Tab
                                      MacMcK1957

                                      I suspect that B&N's reluctance to put Nook content on the SD card may be related to their new policy preventing download of epubs: they don't want anyone to be able to find the content and copy it.  Since magazine content tends to be ephemeral, and from what I've seen never encrypted, maybe they might be willing to relax the policy.  If you can offload enhanced content to the SD card maybe you can live with Nook books being in main memory.  I have over 300 books and the total is only around 500 MB.  It's the enhanced magazines and newspapers that kill you, often 50-100 MB apiece.

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                                          luvbooksCM

                                          I do have a lot of magazines, not sure if they are considered enhance, but I keep those archived and only download the most current issue to read it since it does take up a lot of space.

                                           

                                          Thanks for all the great information and lessons!

                                            • Re: Where to but the Samsung Galaxy Tab
                                              MacMcK1957

                                              Enhanced content are the magazines and newspapers where you can switch between viewing images of the pages and viewing article text.  If you can see the ads, it's enhanced.  I found the same magazine issue was about 1 MB when downloaded to Nook for PC or my NST (article text view only, with no more than one picture per article) but 50 MB when the enhanced version is downloaded to my NGTS.  Basically the enhanced versions contain high-resolution scanned images of every page, which takes a lot of space.