3 Replies Latest reply on Apr 19, 2013 11:21 AM by bobstro

    Samsung Note 8.0 available

    roustabout

      And I've availed myself.  

       

      The HD+ has been getting slower and slower (when running the stock OS) since I've owned it.  Cyanogen running in hybrid mode is faster, but imposes limitations, the severest being that wifi and bluetooth are an either/or choice for all intents and purposes.  

       

      My initial take on the 8.0 - it's  very quick, as finnicky as the Nook devices, and costs close to twice what the 7 inch nooks do.  

       

      - it can be rooted, and modified, but there's no good way to do a reset to stock.  You can reset to stock using a Samsung approved method that involves waiting for a 1 gig file to download and be pushed to the device, or a completely non-approved method involving a tool called Odin

       

      - the internal memory is limited, and by default apps cannot be installed to SD nor moved to it.  Very disappointing to have a 400 dollar device that won't let you use the SD card in a useful way.

       

      Things I like:  light, excellent screen (though not as good as the HD in some ways,) blazing fast, I'm not fighting with BN over how it will operate.

       

      Instead, I'm fighting with Samsung over how it will operate, and quite frankly some of Samsung's decisions are worse - particularly around device recoverability, which is a PITA on these devices, much more than on the Nooks.

       

      We'll see if I still want to keep in a few weeks.  

        • Re: Samsung Note 8.0 available
          patgolfneb

          Roustabout, I thought of you when I saw, last week, announcements of 2 future Samsung phones, one a 5.8 inch screen phone, the other one was 6.3 or 4.8, I don't remember. Or was it robotcure that likes the big phones?

          • Re: Samsung Note 8.0 available

            Thanks for sharing Roustabout.

             

            It's interesting to see Samsung impose restrictions. It had said that the 8.0 is for a different audience (presumably a well-heeled one) and that's why the higher price.

             

            The addition of restrictions. Are these present on other Samsung Tablets too?

             

            Or is it that when device makers make devices for more affluent customers they want to add in stronger ecosystem checks to make sure future income comes to the device makers?

             

            *******

             

            Would you say it's worth the $400 or not?

             

            Also, from your comparison it seems it's very similar to Nook HD, apart from price.

             

            So, other than access to Play store, what advantages does it have over Nook HD/HD+?

             

            • Notes about Notes
              bobstro

              I recently picked up a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and just noticed this thread. I don't frequent the HD/HD+ forum, but wanted to comment on a few things...

               

              The apps2SD thing is a 'feature' of Android 4. My Motorola phone has the same inability to move apps. Having said that, with sufficient on-board storage, I haven't noticed. Apps2SD was a lot more important when storage was tigher. On my 8 GB Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0, I ran out of space regularly and lamented not being able to move apps to external storage. On a 32 GB device, this hasn't been an issue. I've got way too many apps loaded on my Note and phone, and both have plenty of storage left.

               

              Inability to mount as USB storage took some getting used to, but there are work-arounds (e.g. Calibre). I bought the adapter to allow sticking a USB drive on my tablet if I really need to move a lot of stuff, but I will probably never use it.

               

              I haven't bothered rooting any of my latest devices. With full access to Android, I haven't felt the need, and I'm definitely a power user. I can still use Tasker to automate the things I want most. I'm keeping away from any alternate firmware on my Samsungs until I'm sure they'll make all the hardware available (if even then).

               

              Roust didn't comment on the best feature of the Note family: The pressure-sensitive pen! I'm having a lot of fun with Sketchpad and other artsy programs. I haven't done sketching for 3 25 years, and it's fun dusting off the old skills... or lack thereof.

               

              The handwriting recognition on the Note is impressive as well, though I'm quicker with the thumb keyboard than writing. I am torn between using writing-to-text, or programs like LectureNote to capture actual pages as handwriting. There are some impressive videos on YouTube showing LectureNote in use you might want to check out. I can scribble notes and make sketches during meetings, then export it all to PDF at the end of a meeting. I don't like not being able to cut & paste text though, so I'm torn.

               

              Samsung seems to be more-or-less not worrying about fine distinctions between phone and tablet, making them of all sizes and capabilities. Some of the larger tablets with 4G connectivity can be used as phones. My 4.7 inch Moto phone acts pretty much the same as my 7 and 10 inch tablets running the same Android version. I'm sure it keeps Samsung's design challenges down, especially with the wide range of devices they have.  Why 5ivedom insists the Samsung tablets aren't successful, when the current line of products can be traced all the way back to the (pre-NOOK Color) Samsung Galaxy Tab, I'm not sure. I'd like to know if that 2/3 of Samsung "mobile" includes the wifi-only tablets. They're strategy of dominating the non-Apple market seems successful enough.

               

              Usability-wise, Android is getting much better marks these days. Apple people converting over is hardly an unusual thing anymore. Samsung did break from the iPad look with the Note, and it's a good thing. Common sense things like forward-firing speakers are a good thing. I stuff all my gizmos in cases anyhow, so really all I see is the screen and a few buttons sticking out on the side.