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    DRM change?

    keriflur

      I bought a book today and cannot future-proof it. Anyone else seeing this issue?

       

      I know another poster said that B&N was changing the DRM format for people who changed their credit card. Maybe they're getting to the folks that haven't now?

       

      (FYI - I would have bought the book from Play, but that store doesn't have it, and Kobo is charging $5 more than B&N, so I bought it from B&N. I *could* have bought it from Amazon for the same price as B&N, but I chose to support B&N over Amazon. I guess this will be the last time for that.)

       

      Obviously I can still read the book on my nook, my phone, etc., but what happens when (yes, I'm going with "when") B&N goes under? Seems like I just bought a rather short-term license.

        • 1. Re: DRM change?
          Froide

          This topic - and its resolution - was discussed over at Mobileread

          If you have the latest version of Alf's plug-in, the workaround is explained in the help file for the B&N area of the customization dialog.

           

          You will need Nookstudy which can be downloaded from here:

          https://yuzu.com/nsdownload

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          • 2. Re: DRM change?
            Froide

            Dagblasted Jive won't let me edit my post.  I DO know when to use "was" v. "were", even though my post, above, doesn't reflect that.

            • 3. Re: DRM change?
              kamas716

              Thanks Froide. I ran into the same problem last weekend when I was updating my library. Fortunately it only affected one book, but I've pretty much lost interest in buying from B&N anymore because of things like this. I'll have to check out the mobilereads forum.

              • 4. Re: DRM change?
                keriflur

                Froide wrote:

                 

                I DO know when to use "was" v. "were", even though my post, above, doesn't reflect that.

                Lol, maybe I don't? I thought that, since "and its resolution" was separated out as its own clause via the hyphens (which I read as "internet" for m-dashes), that you really only had the one subject, so the singular verb was in agreement with the singular subject. Is that not correct?

                • 6. Re: DRM change?
                  keriflur

                  That article isn't *completely* accurate, at least in my case. The article says you can only download to Yuzu. The book I bought downloaded to both my Nook for PC app and my N1E just fine, and is readable on both.

                  • 7. Re: DRM change?
                    LarryOnLI

                    Oh yea, and the sky is falling.

                     

                    I agree that this move by B&N s***s, however it is not the end of the world.

                     

                    Also I fail to see how moving to another vendor with proprietary DRM resolves the issue.

                     

                    It is the assertion that if (or when as some users are saying) B&N goes out of business, everyone with books stored in B&N's cloud will lose their books.

                     

                    The fact is the B&N customer list is very valuable and we will be sold (along with our eBook libraries) to another vendor. We might (almost definitely will) need to by another reader or download another vendors app, but are very unlikely to lose our content.

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                    • 8. Re: DRM change?
                      keriflur

                      I don't think anyone said it was the end of the world (hyperbole much?). It is a frustration, an annoyance, and a deterrent to purchase.

                       

                      And given that I've now had two bookstores from which I bought books go out of business, and I've been able to transfer less than half the books I bought from both of those services, I'd say we are actually very likely to lose some of our content when B&N goes down.

                       

                      Those of us that are backing up and future-proofing our books aren't doing it out of paranoia, we're doing it because of past experience.

                      • 9. Re: DRM change?
                        MacMcK1957

                        I have just verified that the books I downloaded to Nook for PC over a month ago (last one was 1/26/15) can be de-DRM'ed and future-proofed using the Calibre plug-in from Apprentice Alf.  A book I downloaded this past weekend cannot.  (it's just a freebie, Treasure Island.)  I have not updated anything in my configuration, so clearly B&N has changed the encryption scheme.

                         

                        If I have no way to unlock the books and back them up, I have to seriously question whether I will purchase any further books from B&N.

                        • 10. Re: DRM change?
                          keriflur

                          MacMcK1957 wrote:

                           

                          If I have no way to unlock the books and back them up, I have to seriously question whether I will purchase any further books from B&N.

                          I won't.

                           

                          B&N used to be the only place I bought books.

                          I lost faith in their shipping when books started showing up days after they should have arrived, without their shipping status being updated.

                          I lost faith in their stores when the toy section took over more than a third of my local store, and when I struggled to find award-winning authors on the shelves.

                          And now I've lost faith in their support of readers and authors. Between the DRM change, the partnership with Author Solutions, their turn away from e-ink, etc., I just can't find a reason to stick with this company. I've tried, I *want* to keep loving this store (if I didn't, I would have left a long time ago), but they've removed just about every reason I could come up with to stay.

                           

                          So I will rock on with buying my ebooks from Google, my devices from Amazon, and my HC and PBs from the wonderful indie shops University Bookstore, Elliott Bay Book Company, and Powell's Books. Maybe B&N will turn things around and I'll find a reason to shop there again, but I suspect that ship has not only sailed, but floundered on the rocks and is darn close to sinking.

                          • 11. Re: DRM change?
                            kamas716

                            B&N is actively driving my business away. I still can't get Nook-for-PC or NookStudy to work on either my XP or Win7 machine. Making it difficult for me to back up my library is frustrating. Making it even harder for me to actually use my Nooks in the same way they were sold to me (can't unlock NookBooks I've sideloaded to my microSD card now) and can't futureproof them in case something happens to the company or their servers doesn't make me want to do anymore business with the company if I can avoid it. About the only eBooks I'm getting from them are free ones I can't get from GooglePlay or stuff that's DRM free (almost all of which is available from GooglePlay or Baen).

                            • 12. Re: DRM change?
                              luvbooksCM

                              I haven't been able to get Nook for PC to update, either. It's been months since it's worked properly.

                              • 13. Re: DRM change?
                                MacMcK1957

                                luvbooksCM wrote:

                                 

                                I haven't been able to get Nook for PC to update, either. It's been months since it's worked properly.

                                So basically, B&N is instituting an official policy that their e-books may only be read with their apps, and they can't even get their apps to work consistently.

                                • 14. Re: DRM change?
                                  Froide

                                  MacMcK1957  (to luvbooksCM) 9 hours ago

                                  luvbooksCM wrote:

                                   

                                  I haven't been able to get Nook for PC to update, either. It's been months since it's worked properly.

                                  So basically, B&N is instituting an official policy that their e-books may only be read with their apps, and they can't even get their apps to work consistently.

                                  This.

                                   

                                  Plus...

                                  The other ways to consume NOOK books are via the web and via legacy NOOK devices. Neither of these approaches works consistently, either.

                                   

                                  And don't get me started on shelves!

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