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      • 15. Re: DRM change?
        luvbooksCM

        Viewing books via the website doesn"t appeal to me. I only used Nook for PC as a back-up. it would be nice if it worked properly. I ended up removing it from my computer.

        • 16. Re: DRM change?
          MacMcK1957

          One of the reasons for choosing Nook in the first place is Amazon's insistence on locking you into their infrastructure.  If B&N chooses to behave the same way, how are they any better?

          • 17. Re: DRM change?
            gb18

            The powers in publishing hate ebooks (unless they can make them as expensive as hardcover). All this is just trying to destroy the concept.

             

            Booksellers happy as paper wins......

             

            http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/paper-books-rise-in-popularity-again-leaving-ebook/2553727/

            • 18. Re: DRM change?
              Mercury_Glitch

              To be fair B&N discontinued support for Nook for PC and Nook for Mac sometime back, they just didn't remove the pages that have the downloads.

               

              Nook Study still works, and should do what the Nook apps did.

               

              Note I'm not defending the policy change, just the lack of support they've given to applications they no longer officially offer.

              • 19. Re: DRM change?
                keriflur

                gb18 wrote:

                 

                The powers in publishing hate ebooks (unless they can make them as expensive as hardcover). All this is just trying to destroy the concept.

                Not true. If they hated books, they'd simply stop making them. And what B&N is doing has nothing to do with the publishers. Google and Kobo aren't changing anything. B&N is choosing this, I suspect because upper management doesn't really understand ebooks.

                • 20. Re: DRM change?
                  keriflur

                  Mercury_Glitch wrote:

                   

                  To be fair B&N discontinued support for Nook for PC and Nook for Mac sometime back, they just didn't remove the pages that have the downloads.

                   

                  Nook Study still works, and should do what the Nook apps did.

                   

                  Note I'm not defending the policy change, just the lack of support they've given to applications they no longer officially offer.

                  You mean Yuzu? I suspect they changed the name so that folks wouldn't think it was only for students, but they changed it to a name that is meaningless to most folks.

                   

                  Maybe it's a marketing issue? They need to market this app as the new Nook for PC/Mac, not just as the new Nook Study.

                   

                  FWIW, I keep forgetting the app exists.

                  • 21. Re: DRM change?
                    keriflur

                    What's up with ALL the answers being marked as correct?

                    • 22. Re: DRM change?
                      bobstro

                      LarryOnLI wrote:

                      [...] It is the assertion that if (or when as some users are saying) B&N goes out of business, everyone with books stored in B&N's cloud will lose their books.

                      As well as the means to read those same books on anything but a NOOK device. With B&N's demise, the odds of someone putting out another NOOK are slim indeed.

                      The fact is the B&N customer list is very valuable and we will be sold (along with our eBook libraries) to another vendor. We might (almost definitely will) need to by another reader or download another vendors app, but are very unlikely to lose our content.

                      That's a big IF, and it doesn't take into account the DRM issue. What will the new holder of B&N's list use? Will it be compatible with the devices we own already, or (and this might be the main value of the customer list) will we have to "upgrade" to the list owner's brand to continue reading our ebooks purchased from B&N?

                       

                      The sky has not fallen just yet, but it's a good time to be watching for it.

                      • 23. Re: DRM change?
                        LarryOnLI

                        keriflur wrote:

                         

                        gb18 wrote:

                         

                        The powers in publishing hate ebooks (unless they can make them as expensive as hardcover). All this is just trying to destroy the concept.

                        Not true. If they hated books, they'd simply stop making them. And what B&N is doing has nothing to do with the publishers. Google and Kobo aren't changing anything. B&N is choosing this, I suspect because upper management doesn't really understand ebooks.

                        Google and Kobo aren't changing because they were not using a "social DRM" scheme that depended on people not sharing the unlock code (their credit card number).

                         

                        One of the reasons I chose B&N over other options when I first got into eBooks was B&N's social DRM.

                         

                        The change B&N has made, using a generated key, rather than the credit card, seems like the quickest and least costly way to get away from the social DRM.

                         

                        The reason I think this was somehow pushed on B&N is that I can see no advantage to them in doing this. Just to the publishers.

                        • 24. Re: DRM change?
                          bobstro

                          I haven't been able to play around with this stuff yet. Does the new procedure generate a new key per device or per account? Is it no longer social and more akin to ADE?

                          • 25. Re: DRM change?
                            MacMcK1957

                            I don't know whether it's by device or by account.  By installing Yuzu (formerly known as NookStudy) I was able to access the new encryption key and future-proof my recent downloads.

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                            • 26. Re: DRM change?
                              luvbooksCM

                              I hadn't realized that Nook Study is now known as Yuzu. A quick google search shows that a Yuzu is a sour, citrus  fruit popular in Asian cuisine.  I wonder why they chose that name to replace Nook Study?

                              • 27. Re: DRM change?
                                keriflur

                                LarryOnLI wrote:

                                 

                                The reason I think this was somehow pushed on B&N is that I can see no advantage to them in doing this. Just to the publishers.

                                The rub here is that you're stating it as fact, when you actually have no idea why B&N made this choice. The actual facts are that B&N is the only one changing their DRM, and they are NOT changing it to industry-standard ADE, that B&N is the only one preventing users from downloading the epub versions (or in Amazon's case, the mobi versions) of their books, and that B&N is the only one requiring users to re-log-in when using a web reading app. The odds that the pubs are cracking down on B&N but no one else? Not too likely. The odds that B&N is making choices because they think the changes will increase sales by blocking pirating and sharing?  Seems a lot more likely to me.

                                • 28. Re: DRM change?
                                  keriflur

                                  luvbooksCM wrote:

                                   

                                  I hadn't realized that Nook Study is now known as Yuzu. A quick google search shows that a Yuzu is a sour, citrus  fruit popular in Asian cuisine.  I wonder why they chose that name to replace Nook Study?

                                  It's a very odd choice, isn't it?

                                   

                                  I have heard that Yuzu ice cream is delicious.

                                  • 29. Re: DRM change?
                                    MacMcK1957

                                    Isn't that Cole Porter?

                                     

                                    ♪♫ Let me live 'neath your spell, Do do that voodoo that Yuzu so well. ♪♫

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