14 Replies Latest reply on Apr 19, 2015 8:59 PM by keriflur
      • Re: You Should Take Kindle’s Last Rival Seriously
        keriflur

        You mean "latest rival" don't you? I'd hate to think it's the last rival kindle will see.

          • Re: You Should Take Kindle’s Last Rival Seriously
            gb18

            Their headline, not mine. But it could be the last one.......

              • Re: You Should Take Kindle’s Last Rival Seriously
                Byteguy

                Wired is saying Kobo is the "Last" rival to Amazon.  Read the section starting with "Turning the page"

                 

                Sadly, I agree with them.  While I love my Glowlight and use it nearly every day, I can't believe that B&N has found NOTHING to improve in its software in all this time or come out with anything newer.  That only bolsters the assumption that B&N feels it's "good enough" and isn't spending any time and money on making it better.

                 

                I admit that I'll be looking at a Kobo Aura H2O (or whatever is current) when my Glowlight stops working.

                  • Re: You Should Take Kindle’s Last Rival Seriously
                    keriflur

                    I don't think it's that B&N thinks their software/devices are good enough, I think they just don't think they're profitable. Given how hard they're working to kill off their digital business, I don't think that attitude is going to turn around.

                     

                    So I guess we are effectively down to Kobo v. Kindle. And Kobo has stated they're making no effort in the US because Amazon has a stranglehold on the market. Maybe they'll reverse the decision?

                      • Re: You Should Take Kindle’s Last Rival Seriously
                        Sandikal

                        Barnes and Noble only made a half-hearted attempt to compete with Amazon.  When the first edition Nooks came out, they were superior to the Kindle that was available at the time.  (I got my first Nook about 6 months after they came out.)  You could sideload e-pubs from other sources. You could check out books from the library and sideload them.  It was a great device.  But, B&N never put any effort into support or keeping up with the times.  The ability to check books out of the library became a moot point as soon as Overdrive started lending Kindle editions.  It's now actually easier to check out Kindle books than epubs because Overdrive takes you to the book's page on Amazon and you just download it to your device via wifi instead of having to plug in your reader, find the file on your computer and place it in the proper file on your Nook.  And, with Adobe DRM getting tighter, it's harder to find non-Nook content that you can sideload. 

                         

                        I see the release of the Samsung Galaxy Tab Nook as B&N's way of weaning Nook users off of Nooks.  It's a tablet just like any other tablet.  If they stop making it, it will be no big deal for users to switch to either an Android tablet or iPad.  The fact that it's been two years since they've come out with a new e-ink reader tells me that they really don't care about that either.

                         

                        I have to say that what I'm waiting for is a reliable Android e-ink device that will let me load apps to access books from my B&N, Kindle, and Kobo libraries as well as Overdrive. 

                          • Re: You Should Take Kindle’s Last Rival Seriously
                            keriflur

                            Sandikal wrote:

                             

                            I have to say that what I'm waiting for is a reliable Android e-ink device that will let me load apps to access books from my B&N, Kindle, and Kobo libraries as well as Overdrive. 

                            I'd consider buying one of those if it were done right.

                              • Re: You Should Take Kindle’s Last Rival Seriously
                                DeanGibson

                                keriflur wrote:

                                 

                                Sandikal wrote:

                                 

                                I have to say that what I'm waiting for is a reliable Android e-ink device that will let me load apps to access books from my B&N, Kindle, and Kobo libraries as well as Overdrive. 

                                I'd consider buying one of those if it were done right.

                                 

                                You are all missing the big picture.  B&N is laying low, as they develop their new e-Ink device that will smash Amazon's Kindle products and their grip on the market:

                                 

                                COLOR E-INK

                                 

                                It's just around the corner.  I read it on the Internet, so it must be true.

                                 

                                Because some people will buy it and attempt to use it as a tablet, unlike B&N's previous e-Ink devices, this one will feature full Android 5.1 (with lifetime firmware upgrades).  Like CyanogenMod, it will be rooted right out of the box.  Some people will want to install Amazon apps, and B&N's new e-reader/tablet will not prevent such apps from being installed.  However, when they are run, the speakers in the device will emit a low-level hacking cough sound.  Running Google's "Play Books" app will produce a low-level giggling sound.

                                • Re: You Should Take Kindle’s Last Rival Seriously
                                  bobstro

                                  keriflur wrote:

                                  Sandikal wrote:

                                  I have to say that what I'm waiting for is a reliable Android e-ink device that will let me load apps to access books from my B&N, Kindle, and Kobo libraries as well as Overdrive. 

                                  I'd consider buying one of those if it were done right.

                                  There are some Android eink devices, but they're not exactly state-of-the-art. After futzing with rooting my NSTs for too many months, I've decided that the result was probably not worth all the effort, especially since few apps are written to work on a monochrome display. It works. It's kinda neat. Nobody but me cared and I found it annoying in the long run. I've turned the page, so to speak, and am just focusing on reading on my ereaders instead of perpetually tweaking them. If my Kobo would somehow let me sync reading positions for sideloaded books across devices like Moon+ does, I'd be pretty content.

                                    • Re: You Should Take Kindle’s Last Rival Seriously
                                      Mercury_Glitch

                                      B&N says they're trying to focus more on the content, and making the apps better (which, to some extent, they have though the limitations of the updated apps has been discussed here). 

                                       

                                      Kobo just released an updated Glo which is a 6" 300 DPI screen for markedly less than the Voyage.

                                       

                                      I do wish B&N would release a new eink device, but at this point it would take a very impressive device to sway me from my Kobo H2O.  I don't see B&N doing this though, which is odd given their choice to spin off the college division rather than the Nook division.

                                       

                                      bobstro have you tried loading either koreader or coolreader to your Kobo, I'm not sure if they allow for multiple device syncing, but the install process is simple enough.  I tried koreader and found it wasn't for me.

                                        • Re: You Should Take Kindle’s Last Rival Seriously
                                          bobstro

                                          Mercury_Glitch wrote:

                                          [...] bobstro have you tried loading either koreader or coolreader to your Kobo, I'm not sure if they allow for multiple device syncing, but the install process is simple enough.  I tried koreader and found it wasn't for me.

                                          No, I haven't tried much in the way of customizing my Kobo yet. From what I saw of koreader, it wasn't as nice a presentation, and I've used Coolreader enough to know it's also nice, but the rendering is also lacking compared to Kobo's. I really like Kobo's rendering engine, so am loathe to change what I use for actual reading!

                                           

                                          I am delighted that it's not locked down, and I've gone so far as to open up the on-board (SQLite) database and poke around. It looks like cobbling together some code to sync across devices should be simple enough, but I haven't taken the plunge yet. To really do it right, I'd need to verify that the Kobo Android app uses the same database layout.

                                           

                                          I should mention that cross-device synchronization of sideloaded ebook reading positions on multiple Kobos DOES work using Calibre. Unfortunately, there's this requires a wired connection.