42 Replies Latest reply on Nov 4, 2015 12:50 PM by EB613

    NOOK Glowlight Plus - Thoughts?

    EB613

      Looks like BN can't push out new products fast enough. I don't know about you, but I'm getting dizzy!

       

      http://nook.barnesandnoble.com/u/nook-glowlight-ereader/379004122?st=TRF&sid=NOK_BRD_BNBillboard_20150918&2sid=Piper15_N…

       

      Obviously that's just the official link, but I wanted to start this discussion right away. I admit, it looks like a Kindle Paperwhite in...white

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          captainnook

          I'm going to drop by a store this weekend and check it out. I've been looking for an e-ink reader.

           

          Tom's Guide seems to like it:

           

          Nook GlowLight Plus Hands-On: Water-Tight, Luxury E-Reader

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            gb18
            • Deal killer spec.
              Device Storage
              Device Storage
              • Holds thousands of books (4GB memory: 2.5GB for NOOK Store content and side-loaded content).
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                laurieb52

                That's 2 gig more the the previous glowlight has... should be sufficient for up to 3000 books

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                  gb18

                  Oops. My bad. Still, no sd card.

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                      Hypatia1

                      Some of the reviewers are saying that the spec seems wrong and they aren't seeing a partition, but they may have an early version of the software....I think if B&N went back to an open system they would gave a winner....

                       

                      Reviews are generally very positive, especially since nooks don't often get the love...

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                        laurieb52

                        That's exactly the same as the prior one, which I own. I was looking at my device memory and thinking it only had 2.5 gig of total memory, but it apparently does not provide the total memory, but only usable memory. 1.5 gig is reserved for the device software program.

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                          Hypatia1

                          @gb18 that's a link to glowlight, glowlight plus says 2.5gb for bn content and sideloading..... Doesnt divide up

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                              MacMcK1957

                              To have total space available not partitioned is definitely an improvement.  Some people sideload most content; others download almost everything.

                               

                              But not allowing for an SD card says they're still not willing to cater to the hardcore reader.  Are they still targeting the mythical Julie?

                               

                              I'll stick with my current NSTG (indoor) and NST (outdoor).  When and if one of them dies, I'll have to consider carefully on which way to go from there.

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                                  Doug_Pardee

                                  MacMcK1957 wrote:

                                   

                                  not allowing for an SD card says they're still not willing to cater to the hardcore reader.  Are they still targeting the mythical Julie?

                                  Well, I dunno. There probably aren't many hardcore readers out there buying NOOKs these days. More to the point, I think, is the question of whether those hardcore readers require that their entire libraries be loaded onto the device. I've got over a thousand ebooks in my library (maybe 300 from B&N), but I only keep a limited selection on my devices at any given time.

                                   

                                  Adding an SD card slot also introduces some (not insurmountable) issues:

                                  1. Memory must be partitioned into internal and external. Considering the general approval of the GL+ having an unpartitioned memory, that's kind-of a step backward.
                                  2. The reader app must be written to keep up with cards being inserted and removed. B&N seems to have enough trouble with app development, and that may be a step too far for their app team.
                                  3. The slot needs to be waterproofed, and done so in a way that it's waterproof even with a micro-SD card loaded in there. (The USB slot isn't usable when wet.)

                                   

                                  So yeah, all of those things could be done. But what's the likely return on investment?

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                                      Omnigeek

                                      Doug_Pardee wrote:

                                      Adding an SD card slot also introduces some (not insurmountable) issues:

                                      1. Memory must be partitioned into internal and external. Considering the general approval of the GL+ having an unpartitioned memory, that's kind-of a step backward.
                                      2. The reader app must be written to keep up with cards being inserted and removed. B&N seems to have enough trouble with app development, and that may be a step too far for their app team.
                                      3. The slot needs to be waterproofed, and done so in a way that it's waterproof even with a micro-SD card loaded in there. (The USB slot isn't usable when wet.)

                                      1.  The general approval of the unpartitioned memory was because the partitioned onboard memory was so limiting.  I have never had an issue with partitioning between onboard and offboard memory.  Not allowing offboard memory is the step backward.

                                      2.  They already had the reader app able to keep up with cards being inserted and removed.  No additional NRE there.  I don't insert and extract my microSD card a lot -- but I like having it.  When I travel or even go camping for more than a few days, I like having the whole library with me.

                                      3.  The USB port has to be waterproofed too.  They could have a single cover for both the USB and microSD card ports or they could have the microSD card covered with a different gasket.  It's not hard, other hardware does this just fine.

                                      No support for microSD kills the deal for me.  I won't downgrade to the Samsung GS6 or the new Nexus phones for the same reason.

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                                      captainnook

                                      MacMcK1957 wrote:

                                      .

                                      But not allowing for an SD card says they're still not willing to cater to the hardcore reader.  Are they still targeting the mythical Julie?

                                       

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                                      Omnigeek  wrote:

                                       

                                      SD card slot is a killer

                                      I've seen this kind of comment about SD's cards before, but I don't get it. I consider myself a hardcore reader with a considerable 3rd party side-loaded library as well as first party items in the hundreds, but I've never seen a need for an SD card.

                                       

                                      Am I doing something dumb? I seriously want to know, because if I'm missing out on something that I'd have if I used an SD card, I want to correct that.

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                                          jaquellae

                                          I think it's a matter of preference.

                                           

                                          I keep a NSTG around as a backup - and it currently has a microSD card in it that has my entire library on it. (I tend more to read on my phone or Samsung tab2 nook.) I like the idea of having the library there as a backup, considering my library goes back to when Fictionwise, eReader.com and Mobipocket (as well as the big "A") were the main players in eBooks. For me to replace my e-ink device, a microSD slot is a must so transferring my library is as simple as moving the microSD card to the new device. This is the same card that used to live in my Nook 1st edition.

                                           

                                          I do know other people have different preferences, which doesn't equate to "dumb". It's like the Android vs iPhone debate. Both products have their pluses and minuses - just because I prefer Android, I don't think anyone's dumb for preferring iPhone (despite what fanboys on both sides would have you believe).

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                                            Omnigeek

                                            captainnook wrote:

                                             

                                            MacMcK1957 wrote:

                                            .

                                            But not allowing for an SD card says they're still not willing to cater to the hardcore reader.  Are they still targeting the mythical Julie?

                                             

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                                            Omnigeek  wrote:

                                             

                                            SD card slot is a killer

                                            I've seen this kind of comment about SD's cards before, but I don't get it. I consider myself a hardcore reader with a considerable 3rd party side-loaded library as well as first party items in the hundreds, but I've never seen a need for an SD card.

                                             

                                            Am I doing something dumb? I seriously want to know, because if I'm missing out on something that I'd have if I used an SD card, I want to correct that.

                                            I like to keep my entire e-library with me, especially when I'm travelling or camping for more than a few days.  My e-library includes documents besides ebooks.  I frequently leaf through various books to look up quotes or trivia or just to refresh my memory on storylines.  Keeping my e-library on the microSD card means it's portable between devices.  It also means there is more free memory on the ereader for some of my travel pictures and drawings or cartoons that I have set up as my randomized screensaver.

                                            Is it absolute necessary in order to use the ereader?  No but I like having the microSD card and I don't like the direction Google and Samsung have gone (and where Apple has always been) in limiting my choice for storage -- especially when I consider their device configurations to have sparse memory to begin with.

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                                                captainnook

                                                Okay, that makes sense to me. I don't store anything other than books in my various devices, so that is probably the key difference. While I do go offline for long periods of time, I'm fine with just doing some downloading prior to a trip. For my third party side-loaded stuff, I keep all of it on my laptop (which is backed up twelve ways from Sunday) and just use Calibre to side-load anything I need.

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                                                bobstro

                                                captainnook wrote:

                                                 

                                                I've seen this kind of comment about SD's cards before, but I don't get it. I consider myself a hardcore reader with a considerable 3rd party side-loaded library as well as first party items in the hundreds, but I've never seen a need for an SD card.

                                                The card issue was more pronounced on B&N devices because of the way B&N insisted on keeping B&N purchased material separate from sideloaded material. You might fit "thousands" of B&N-purchases on a device that would only hold a few hundred sideloaded.

                                                 

                                                Am I doing something dumb? I seriously want to know, because if I'm missing out on something that I'd have if I used an SD card, I want to correct that.

                                                It's not a right or wrong thing, so much as personal usage. If the device does everything you need and want out of the box, there's certainly nothing wrong with that. In my case, the desire to sideload a lot of content makes a card near-mandatory, although a couple of GB of usable storage makes it less of an issue on the new device.

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                                        Omnigeek

                                        I'm glad they got rid of the rubber edge but lack of an SD card slot is a killer and I still don't like the protruding power button.  I hope it's got more than 4 GB of memory, I found the NGL a trifle limiting since personal screensavers had to be saved in on-board memory.

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                                          lkmiller

                                          Definitely not enough to entice me back from Kobo.  I like my H2O's larger screen and SD card slot.

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                                              bobstro

                                              Same here, but I am surprised that:

                                               

                                              1. B&N stepped up with a new device with competitive (e.g. water resistant) features. Someone's thinking ahead. If I didn't already have a splash-safe device, I might consider this one.
                                              2. It's both capacitive and water resistant. I'd understood that this combination was tough to pull off, and that's why Kobo reverted to IR for the H2O rather than capacitive as on the preceding Aura.
                                              3. B&N isn't only worried about clearing Samsung devices due to contractual commitments.

                                               

                                              It's been a while since I've been pleasantly surprised by B&N offerings! Of course, Pocket (or similar) integration is now on my "must-have" feature list. I'm finding that surprisingly useful on my Kobo+desktop combination.

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                                              captainnook

                                              Good review in Mashable, though a doubt raised about the speediness of menus. But didn't have an e-ink to compare to, so maybe it's a general e-ink slowness, not specific to the Glowlight Plus?

                                               

                                              Nook GlowLight Plus is a sleek $130 e-reader that's waterproof

                                               

                                              I'll try it this weekend and see.

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                                                DeanGibson

                                                Excuse me for being negative, but where are the specifications?  Eg, what WiFi modes?  I can't find them on B&N's web site.  To find even the barest of specs, you have to compare the GL+ to the other tablets (and the old GL is missing from that table).  Yes, you can find most (but not all) of them by scurrying around the web site, but some are just missing (as far as I can tell).  This had been a persistent problem with B&N releases.  Sadly, B&N is not unique (although possibly the worst);  a lot of manufacturers don't even know what a specification is.

                                                 

                                                Hint:  Battery life is not a specification;  battery capacity is.

                                                 

                                                Finally, for $20 more, you get the Tab 4 Nook, with lots more features (eg, color, more memory, Google Play, microSD slot, ...), and the weight is not all that different.  And that $20 is only a factor if you don't trade in (by November 7) an old Nook for a $50 credit. Otherwise, you looking at a $30 saving of the Tab over the new GL+.  Too bad the discount doesn't apply to the new GL+ (I called & asked).

                                                 

                                                I understand the desire to have an e-Ink device, with its different screen and long battery life:  I have three e-Ink Nooks, and only one color Nook.  However, what good does it do for B&N to have KitKat, Lollipop, or Marshmellow on the eReader, if Google Play isn't there?  Not even the usual pre-installed Google eMail client, which would be eminently useful on an e-Ink device (as would be a browser).

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                                                    Hypatia1

                                                    The wifi spec is 802.11 a/b/g/n

                                                     

                                                    They could make things easier to find - the ebookfriendly site has pulled a lot of this together. I think a lot of this comes down to personal preference - I find that the best way to disconnect is not to take a device I can easily get email on into the bedroom so I like the lack of features.... Will report when I have had a chance to use my device-happy to learn it will arrive a day earlier than promised so I should get it tomorrow

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                                                    Htom_Serveaux

                                                    Visited the local B&N today to check this out.  I've been waiting for B&N to get a 300 dpi display.

                                                     

                                                    The resolution and the new fonts were as nice as hoped for, and the screen lighting was basically perfectly uniform.

                                                     

                                                    I still left empty-handed, though, for two reasons.  I found (and have not found by Googling) any way to adjust the text size.  I'm hoping it's just escaping me because this seems to be a near-fatal flaw in an e-reader.

                                                     

                                                    More importantly, I have no idea what they mean by "improved contrast".  The background on both the display models was distinctly gray at any level of illumination.  Considerably grayer than the display on my existing NSTs.

                                                     

                                                    Page changes and menus also seemed slow.  Not nook 1st gen slow, but certainly not improved over the NST.

                                                     

                                                    I dislike the loss of physical page turn buttons, but I could adjust to that.

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                                                        byter67

                                                        According to the Glowlight Plus User Guide (available on line) text size is adjustable from the Reading Tools Menu

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                                                          Mercury_Glitch

                                                          BN tweaked how font size changing works in the NGLP, it's still there, and still in the same place, but instead of being a series of different options all laid out, you'll see a small A and a larger A, there are 10 font sizes tapping the smaller makes the text smaller, and tapping the larger makes the text larger.

                                                           

                                                          Keep in mind the NGLP is capacitive, which some folks here were asking for (I wasn't one, and the reason is one you've hit in your reasoning).  This means that there is an extra layer between the text and you.  I did not notice the same greyish coloring when I was checking out the demos in my store.

                                                           

                                                          I do have some good news though, shelves now sync.  Yes, I know, small steps, but at least it shows someone in charge is listening.  Oh and I'm not sure if it was mentioned elsewhere but series should now be bundled together.

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                                                              Hypatia1

                                                              Well, after a day of reading, I have to say I like the feel of this in my hand and I am getting used to the slightly different swipe . Taking it on travel today, like the fact the case has elastic to keep it closed. I am thinking of getting one for my father ...

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                                                                captainnook

                                                                The text does seem to be a bit "deeper" into the device, from the front surface of the touch screen, but it doesn't seem to bother me while reading. Contrast is fine, I haven't had a problem with it.

                                                                 

                                                                The big win for me, besides the crisper text from the higher resolution, is that there is a lot less flashing while turning pages. NGL flashes a lot more than NGLP.

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                                                                  bobstro

                                                                  Mercury_Glitch wrote:

                                                                  [...] Keep in mind the NGLP is capacitive, which some folks here were asking for (I wasn't one, and the reason is one you've hit in your reasoning).  This means that there is an extra layer between the text and you.  I did not notice the same greyish coloring when I was checking out the demos in my store.

                                                                  How would you say it compares to the Kobo H2O in terms of screen clarity, Merc?

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                                                                      Mercury_Glitch

                                                                      bobstro, hard to say.  The NGLP is of course higher res, but I honestly can't tell that much of a difference, 300DPI vs 265DPI may not really be enough of a difference to tell without a more in depth comparison than I want to do.

                                                                       

                                                                      That said looking at the two of them I would still go for the H2O, for the following reasons

                                                                       

                                                                      1) font control is still Kobos domain, it seems unlikely that B&N or Amazon will unseat Kobo in this feature.

                                                                       

                                                                      2) lines of text per-page, the H2O with the easily applied patches I have makes the collected Malazan series (10 books) some 200-300 pages less than the same book on the NGLP with the font settings set to maximize the text on the screen, smallest font, single line spacing, smallest margins.  Granted the collected work is some 8,000 pages but that's still a lot of extra swipes to read the same book.

                                                                       

                                                                      3) The lighting, it's better on the NGLP than it was on the NGL, but I think the H2O is a better color of white.  The NGLP is a cold white, while the H2O is a slightly warmer though not yellowed light.  This is entirely preferential and may differ with different units.  I have two NGLP demos at my store, but only one H2O so available units are limited.

                                                                       

                                                                      4) Calibre interaction, the NGLP does now work with Calibre, but it's just the basics.  Still no shelving via Calibre.  And I've recently set up Goodreads to tie in with Calibre which makes using the Kobo even nicer since I can update my reading status on GR from Calibre after plugging in my H2O to charge.

                                                                       

                                                                      5) The open nature of Kobos firmware to patches.

                                                                       

                                                                       

                                                                      All that said, the NGLP is a solid ereader.  Biggest issues I can see folks here having with it are the continued lack of an SD card, and the (hopefully) temporary issues of loaning books from public libraries.  There is, supposedly, a fix in the works.  However no timeframe is available.  Not even to us employees.  If you have a NSTG, NST, or N1E I would suggest the NGLP.  I think the NGL is still comparable to the NGLP and may not be worth the 130 price tag to upgrade.

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                                                                  nlstein

                                                                  Does anyone know if the new model is Calibre compatible? That would make "side loading" my none B&N ePub books a snap.

                                                                   

                                                                  Or is it too soon to know?

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                                                                      lkmiller

                                                                      Kovid is working on it.  Should be soon.

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                                                                        captainnook

                                                                        I just tried Calibre on the NGLP. Works and even shows book covers!

                                                                         

                                                                        Calibre does post an error every time I launch it with the NGLP connected, but the error doesn't seem to affect anything.

                                                                         

                                                                        I needed to do a little device configuration in Calibre, to make sure to send EPUB to NOOK/My Files, but after that, it works a treat. Very happy!

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                                                                            lkmiller

                                                                            Today's update adds official Nook Glowlight Plus support:

                                                                             

                                                                            calibre - What's new

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                                                                                captainnook

                                                                                lkmiller wrote:

                                                                                 

                                                                                Today's update adds official Nook Glowlight Plus support:

                                                                                 

                                                                                calibre - What's new

                                                                                I downloaded the update and gave it a try. It removes the error on start-up I was seeing and fixes the file types that NGLP will accept. I still had to configure the NOOK/My Files folder, though. The default might have worked, but I didn't trust it and set it to what I know works.

                                                                                 

                                                                                Also, I noticed that you have to give the NGLP a nudge to get it to show the book after Calibre successfully transfers it. You either have to switch screens, like from Home to Library, or you have to tap on the little swirly arrows at the top of Library to get the book cover to display. I did both, so I'm not sure which one is the one that actually worked.

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                                                                                    EB613

                                                                                    I purchased the NGLP and everything is great (I'm not one to use an SD card), but I'm definitely missing my library books! Several people on the Adobe forums have complained about it, and there is no timeframe to fix the problem. That said, I have an iPad I can use the app with, but my point of the NOOK is to read on that

                                                                                     

                                                                                    I do enjoy the new e-reader. I'm glad Calibre has support for it now - I have to go update!

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                                                                                  laurieb52

                                                                                  Captain,

                                                                                  What did you do in Calibre to get it to send the epubs to Files? I waited until after the Calibre update, before trying to sideload epubs  through Calibre, but it just puts them in the nook folder, and nothing's recognized. I can't even move them from the main nook folder to the "My Files" folder from explorer.... it just keeps saying nook is busy...

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                                                                                      nlstein

                                                                                      According the the "What's New" file for version 2.42

                                                                                      • Driver for the new NookGlowlight Plus. This device only allows sending of files inside the NOOK folder, so calibre now follows that limitation.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      So it looks like this version does not have a way to save pubs to a "My Files" folder.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      captainnook said in an earlier post "I needed to do a little device configuration in Calibre, to make sure to send EPUB to NOOK/My Files, but after that, it works a treat. Very happy!"

                                                                                       

                                                                                      Can he or someone else explain how this is done (how the folder was created and how Calibre was told to send books there) given what Calibre's own site says.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      Anyone see something I'm missing?